Both terms have been watered down to mean nothing.
Nazis are just German fascists, so that distinction isn't particularly meaningful.
A day ago I was talking to a friend about Microsoft and they equated Microsoft to Nazis, I said let's be realistic, they aren't Nazis, they said fine the KKK. Watering down these terms to mean someone you don't like is super dangerous and let's actual Nazis and KKK just play off the accusations as someone not liking them.
So I agree, it's been watered down and it's really a bad thing.
Those who claim that terms like “Nazi” or “fascist” are being watered down are usually Nazis/fascists themselves, and they're trying to cover it up by convincing everyone that Nazis/fascists don't exist.
are usually Nazis
Er, I think that might depend on who you are talking to the most.
I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that "nazi" and "fascist" have been watered down. Obviously nazi's and fascists will say they're watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors.
I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that “nazi” and “fascist” have been watered down.
Then I question their normalcy.
Well, that or it's now considered normal to be a fascist. I certainly hope that's not the case, although sometimes I have to wonder.
Obviously nazi’s and fascists will say they’re watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors.
Obviously. I'm not denying that. I'm denying that that's actually happening to any significant extent.
Don't you see how this comment proves the point. I mentioned that I've heard regular people comment that they think people online overuse the term nazi and fascist and your response is "they're probably nazis or fascists"
No, it just proves that fascism is popular these days, and explains why fascist parties are on the rise around the world.
Which is really scary and sad.
I do not think it proves fascism is popular these days. The people you just assumed to be fascists are left wing voters and not fascist in any way yet you instantly assumed them to be fascist so you can dismiss their opinion.
So what you’re saying is … you know a lot of Nazis!
Making you, in fact, a Nazi!
Get him!
bro this isn't reddit
you're being repeatedly antagonistic all over beehaw
this is your warning and reminder to be nice
So Microsoft are nazis?
I think it refers to nazi dicks
No one here is saying Nazis or Fascists don't exist. You are making a false dichotomy.
People denying the existence of robots may themselves be robots.
I always say if you don’t like the idea of corporations having too much power over you, you’ll hate a government that has too much power over you.
Corporations deplatform people and shut off their electricity. Governments drag people into the street and shoot them, and firebomb cities. There’s no comparison.
I hate corporations having power over me, but I don't mind governments.
Why? Because I get to vote on who is in those governments. I don't have any input in those corporations.
And corporations only care about profit, with government you can at least sometimes have one that cares about the population.
If we let corporations do their thing, they would bring back slavery since that is much more profitable than paying someone even minimum wage.
Corporations would sell their own mother if they saw it as profitable.
Does the distinction even matter in this context? Neither is good and neither should be permitted.
Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really.
neither should be permitted.
lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have
Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really.
CNN sources a Media Matters report which goes into detail as to the content of the twitter account. Tl;dr, it's an explicitly neo-nazi account which regularly posted memes and content praising Hitler and the Nazi party and pushing neo-nazi talking points.
I'm not sure what it accomplishes playing semantic games about whether something fits the technical definition of fascism (Nazi Germany absolutely does, btw) when the commonly understood definition of far-right, ultra-nationalist, authoritarianism is abundantly clear.
lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have
I don't think anyone is proposing that we dictate others' opinions. But companies, advertisers, and platforms are under no obligation to be associated with the expression of those opinions, and I have no issue stating that Nazis, Fascists, and their ideological descendants are very unwelcome on Beehaw.
Also, was it fascist or nazi?
Both terms have been watered down to mean nothing.
Nazis are just German fascists, so that distinction isn't particularly meaningful.
A day ago I was talking to a friend about Microsoft and they equated Microsoft to Nazis, I said let's be realistic, they aren't Nazis, they said fine the KKK. Watering down these terms to mean someone you don't like is super dangerous and let's actual Nazis and KKK just play off the accusations as someone not liking them.
So I agree, it's been watered down and it's really a bad thing.
Those who claim that terms like “Nazi” or “fascist” are being watered down are usually Nazis/fascists themselves, and they're trying to cover it up by convincing everyone that Nazis/fascists don't exist.
Er, I think that might depend on who you are talking to the most.
I know a lot of pretty normal people that dont have terminally online views and I think almost all of them would agree with the statement that "nazi" and "fascist" have been watered down. Obviously nazi's and fascists will say they're watered down but to lump random people in with them is not doing you any favors.
Then I question their normalcy.
Well, that or it's now considered normal to be a fascist. I certainly hope that's not the case, although sometimes I have to wonder.
Obviously. I'm not denying that. I'm denying that that's actually happening to any significant extent.
Don't you see how this comment proves the point. I mentioned that I've heard regular people comment that they think people online overuse the term nazi and fascist and your response is "they're probably nazis or fascists"
No, it just proves that fascism is popular these days, and explains why fascist parties are on the rise around the world.
Which is really scary and sad.
I do not think it proves fascism is popular these days. The people you just assumed to be fascists are left wing voters and not fascist in any way yet you instantly assumed them to be fascist so you can dismiss their opinion.
So what you’re saying is … you know a lot of Nazis!
Making you, in fact, a Nazi!
Get him!
bro this isn't reddit
you're being repeatedly antagonistic all over beehaw
this is your warning and reminder to be nice
So Microsoft are nazis?
I think it refers to nazi dicks
No one here is saying Nazis or Fascists don't exist. You are making a false dichotomy.
People denying the existence of robots may themselves be robots.
I always say if you don’t like the idea of corporations having too much power over you, you’ll hate a government that has too much power over you.
Corporations deplatform people and shut off their electricity. Governments drag people into the street and shoot them, and firebomb cities. There’s no comparison.
I hate corporations having power over me, but I don't mind governments.
Why? Because I get to vote on who is in those governments. I don't have any input in those corporations.
And corporations only care about profit, with government you can at least sometimes have one that cares about the population.
If we let corporations do their thing, they would bring back slavery since that is much more profitable than paying someone even minimum wage.
Corporations would sell their own mother if they saw it as profitable.
Does the distinction even matter in this context? Neither is good and neither should be permitted.
Whether it was fascist or not matter because the word has lost its meaning. Could be something fairly innocuous really.
lol yeah sounds totally righteous to dictate which opinions others should have
CNN sources a Media Matters report which goes into detail as to the content of the twitter account. Tl;dr, it's an explicitly neo-nazi account which regularly posted memes and content praising Hitler and the Nazi party and pushing neo-nazi talking points.
I'm not sure what it accomplishes playing semantic games about whether something fits the technical definition of fascism (Nazi Germany absolutely does, btw) when the commonly understood definition of far-right, ultra-nationalist, authoritarianism is abundantly clear.
I don't think anyone is proposing that we dictate others' opinions. But companies, advertisers, and platforms are under no obligation to be associated with the expression of those opinions, and I have no issue stating that Nazis, Fascists, and their ideological descendants are very unwelcome on Beehaw.