Good for him. As a queer woman, it's always nice to see progress. But just like Pete Buttigeig, trash policies means I absolutely won't vote for him. Nor commit his name to memory, despite libertians booing at Trump the other day, they are still conservatives so this dork championing their deregulation nonsense doesn't move the needle for me.
Would you recommend him to your Trump-supporting friends?
(assuming you have Trump-supporting friends 😁)
Oh gawd no. I did tolerate a friend of a friend who voted Trump under the agreement we weren't gonna talk politics.
But.... Then roe v wade got over tuned and he was openly laughing at me loosing basic human rights. Anyways, he is in jail now anyways for trying to shoot his GF while blackout drunk.
And that's the story of when I decided to have standards for people I let in to my life.
If it pulls a vote away from Trump? Possibly.
Go live on your bitcoin cruise ship in international waters and slowly recreate a shittier version of traditional government step by step while saying you hate government.
Are you American, and if so, are you voting for Biden? (maybe Trump?)
Was this the convention with the hot mic racist dick measuring discussion? I can only assume he showed them.
I like Chase Oliver. I don't agree with him on all the issues by a long long shot, but I think he seems like a genuine dude, and I understand his positions, even when I disagree with them. And he's ideologically consistent if nothing else.
I'm in a state where the Electorial College is a hard lock anyway, so I'll probably vote for him since my vote doesn't matter otherwise. Just as a protest vote if nothing else.
Plus, if they can get enough of the popular vote they'll get federal funding in the next election cycle. The Libertarian Party definitely has an extremist wing to it I can't stand, but there's something to be said for rewarding them for picking a reasonable human being for a candidate lol.
I'm in a state where the Electorial College is a hard lock anyway
That attitude is why states tend to stay locked. Third parties will never be viable, and if anything will act as spoilers until we get ranked choice voting. Sure the libertarians put up a semi-real candidate, but he's still a libertarian that wants the free market to solve every problem which is the most batshit insane idea. Don't reward that shit.
I mean, I live in a super blue state, but like, if you want me to vote for Trump to try and flip it for him, I guess I can do that?
Keep it blue then. If enough people fall for the propaganda, it may yet flip. Unless it's like... California or something.
Yeah, I'm in a bluer state than California my guy. Think, like, Maryland or Massachusetts.
I feel pretty safe voting for Chase Oliver, lol.
Not that I'd feel bad voting for him in an Alabama or Mississippi either.
Hoping to flip it someday doesn't change the fact that when polling suggests that it's going 90% one way, hoping that maybe you'll flip it this cycle is delusional.
When you vote for a candidate you hate you're telling them that they don't have to change their platform to have your support. People making safe votes against their own interests is precisely why the people in power get away with all this bullshit. Don't waste your vote by giving it to someone who doesn't stand for what you believe in.
That can only ever benefit Republicans because they're enough of a cult to keep their party vote as long as they promise to hurt people the voters don't like. If every Democrat voted their conscience, trump would be guaranteed the win.
In the primaries, sure, that’s your chance to send your party a message about who you really want. In the general election? You are just a vote and you don’t get to decide how that is interpreted.
Are the Democrats likely to look at the results and say “oh the libertarian vote is gaining ground, we need to move our platform to the left”? Or will they see themselves losing ground and try to appeal more to the center? Or will the Republicans look at it and say “we need to be even more anti-government!” Or any number of other things that could be antithetical to the change you want?
Good for him. As a queer woman, it's always nice to see progress. But just like Pete Buttigeig, trash policies means I absolutely won't vote for him. Nor commit his name to memory, despite libertians booing at Trump the other day, they are still conservatives so this dork championing their deregulation nonsense doesn't move the needle for me.
Would you recommend him to your Trump-supporting friends?
(assuming you have Trump-supporting friends 😁)
Oh gawd no. I did tolerate a friend of a friend who voted Trump under the agreement we weren't gonna talk politics.
But.... Then roe v wade got over tuned and he was openly laughing at me loosing basic human rights. Anyways, he is in jail now anyways for trying to shoot his GF while blackout drunk.
And that's the story of when I decided to have standards for people I let in to my life.
If it pulls a vote away from Trump? Possibly.
Go live on your bitcoin cruise ship in international waters and slowly recreate a shittier version of traditional government step by step while saying you hate government.
Are you American, and if so, are you voting for Biden? (maybe Trump?)
Was this the convention with the hot mic racist dick measuring discussion? I can only assume he showed them.
I like Chase Oliver. I don't agree with him on all the issues by a long long shot, but I think he seems like a genuine dude, and I understand his positions, even when I disagree with them. And he's ideologically consistent if nothing else.
I'm in a state where the Electorial College is a hard lock anyway, so I'll probably vote for him since my vote doesn't matter otherwise. Just as a protest vote if nothing else.
Plus, if they can get enough of the popular vote they'll get federal funding in the next election cycle. The Libertarian Party definitely has an extremist wing to it I can't stand, but there's something to be said for rewarding them for picking a reasonable human being for a candidate lol.
That attitude is why states tend to stay locked. Third parties will never be viable, and if anything will act as spoilers until we get ranked choice voting. Sure the libertarians put up a semi-real candidate, but he's still a libertarian that wants the free market to solve every problem which is the most batshit insane idea. Don't reward that shit.
I mean, I live in a super blue state, but like, if you want me to vote for Trump to try and flip it for him, I guess I can do that?
Keep it blue then. If enough people fall for the propaganda, it may yet flip. Unless it's like... California or something.
Yeah, I'm in a bluer state than California my guy. Think, like, Maryland or Massachusetts.
I feel pretty safe voting for Chase Oliver, lol.
Not that I'd feel bad voting for him in an Alabama or Mississippi either.
Hoping to flip it someday doesn't change the fact that when polling suggests that it's going 90% one way, hoping that maybe you'll flip it this cycle is delusional.
When you vote for a candidate you hate you're telling them that they don't have to change their platform to have your support. People making safe votes against their own interests is precisely why the people in power get away with all this bullshit. Don't waste your vote by giving it to someone who doesn't stand for what you believe in.
That can only ever benefit Republicans because they're enough of a cult to keep their party vote as long as they promise to hurt people the voters don't like. If every Democrat voted their conscience, trump would be guaranteed the win.
In the primaries, sure, that’s your chance to send your party a message about who you really want. In the general election? You are just a vote and you don’t get to decide how that is interpreted.
Are the Democrats likely to look at the results and say “oh the libertarian vote is gaining ground, we need to move our platform to the left”? Or will they see themselves losing ground and try to appeal more to the center? Or will the Republicans look at it and say “we need to be even more anti-government!” Or any number of other things that could be antithetical to the change you want?