Since Google has basically just turned into an advertising engine I’ve used their services less and less. I’m also not fond of the way they censor things, even when I agree with the ideology, I don’t think a mega corporation should be deciding what people are allowed to speak. Gives me a creepy dystopian vibe.
I’m also not fond of the way they censor things, even when I agree with the ideology
Agree.
Corporations use the majority's opinions for their benefit. Which is not good nor bad. Until it's bad.
It's been a while since I used Google/YouTube directly.
I know of invidious for YouTube, what do you use for google search? I would love to use another search engine but google seems to still have the most reliable results
For search: Kagi, SearXNG, LibreX
YouTube alts: Invidious, NewPipe on android, Freetube on PC.
LibRedirect is perfect, thank you so much for the suggestion on that one!
I selfhost Whoogle. It's amazing and gets the results from google minus the Ads and tracking.
The most reliable for them, I'm trying to move away from Google as fast as I can:
Vivaldi browser,
DuckDuckGo / Bing
Next will be LineageOS...
Vivaldi is a chrome derived browser. Using it entrenches Google power over the web.
The manifest v3 debacle, weird “standards” like the recent Web Environment Integrity and more are only posible because Google controls most of the web clients through Blink and V8. They can make or break standards thanks to the massive amount of Chrome and Chromium related browsers, like Vivaldi, Brave, Opera, Edge, etc.
So, glad you like Vivaldi, but you are not that far from google and are in fact an asset for their goals.
We need Firefox alive and well. If we lose it, Google will be THE web and will control it’s foreseeable future.
I’ve used Vivaldi and Opera, I think both are chromium browsers at this point unfortunately. I still use Firefox, but I’m sure there are other more savory, security-oriented browsers
When this topic comes up people usually bring up search engines that still use either Google or Bing's index, so if you want to look at something completely independent of those:
In addition to what is already mentioned, you may consider andisearch.com
Because I'm never logged into Google and use a VPN their search-engine just puts me into infinite captcha loop anyway now. Can't even use Google if I want to. They've basically banned anonymous use.
Is there anything that's good as Google was a few years ago? And what about Google Images (including image search)? It seems that's gotten way less reliable over the last few years. ~Strawberry
The starting point of the internet has changed over the years. And will keep changing. From the famous startpagina.nl in the Netherlands. To hyves. To Facebook. To Google. To ChatGPT. And now maybe the fediverse for some people?
I hate to say it but...
Gottem
Since Google has basically just turned into an advertising engine I’ve used their services less and less. I’m also not fond of the way they censor things, even when I agree with the ideology, I don’t think a mega corporation should be deciding what people are allowed to speak. Gives me a creepy dystopian vibe.
Agree. Corporations use the majority's opinions for their benefit. Which is not good nor bad. Until it's bad.
It's been a while since I used Google/YouTube directly.
I know of invidious for YouTube, what do you use for google search? I would love to use another search engine but google seems to still have the most reliable results
For search: Kagi, SearXNG, LibreX
YouTube alts: Invidious, NewPipe on android, Freetube on PC.
Check out libreRedirect. https://libredirect.github.io/
LibRedirect is perfect, thank you so much for the suggestion on that one!
I selfhost Whoogle. It's amazing and gets the results from google minus the Ads and tracking.
The most reliable for them, I'm trying to move away from Google as fast as I can:
Vivaldi is a chrome derived browser. Using it entrenches Google power over the web.
The manifest v3 debacle, weird “standards” like the recent Web Environment Integrity and more are only posible because Google controls most of the web clients through Blink and V8. They can make or break standards thanks to the massive amount of Chrome and Chromium related browsers, like Vivaldi, Brave, Opera, Edge, etc.
So, glad you like Vivaldi, but you are not that far from google and are in fact an asset for their goals.
We need Firefox alive and well. If we lose it, Google will be THE web and will control it’s foreseeable future.
I’ve used Vivaldi and Opera, I think both are chromium browsers at this point unfortunately. I still use Firefox, but I’m sure there are other more savory, security-oriented browsers
When this topic comes up people usually bring up search engines that still use either Google or Bing's index, so if you want to look at something completely independent of those:
Qwant
Brave Search
Mojeek
In addition to what is already mentioned, you may consider andisearch.com
Because I'm never logged into Google and use a VPN their search-engine just puts me into infinite captcha loop anyway now. Can't even use Google if I want to. They've basically banned anonymous use.
Is there anything that's good as Google was a few years ago? And what about Google Images (including image search)? It seems that's gotten way less reliable over the last few years. ~Strawberry
The starting point of the internet has changed over the years. And will keep changing. From the famous startpagina.nl in the Netherlands. To hyves. To Facebook. To Google. To ChatGPT. And now maybe the fediverse for some people?