Depends on what's causing decline. If its people not wanting kids then it's a good thing, it it's people not able to have the kids they want because Capitalism is squeezing them dry or assholes like Musk is reducing work flexibility then it's a bad thing
I have no love for capitalism. But population decline helps with climate change.
No, better and more effective and efficient systems help with Climate Change like Nuclear and Renewables, banning plastic in favor of infinitely recyclable glass, or more relevant, let people work from home instead of driving to an office building.
We live in a world of fixed costs that looks like it’s variable
Nuclear is not a panacea, mostly due to the cost, waste, and risk of catastrophe.
We can't grow our way out of this existential mess.
It's clear we need to reduce population.
Easy to agree on WFH, but of course that is just a drop in the bucket.
I wish I had your optimism, but this makes me doubtful.
Population decline from the black death was the #1 factor that caused the Renaissance.
Nyaaah, when will people understand? No one in the rich and powerful and tech circles cares about people. We're "human resource" and always have been, one more mineral to be strip-mined until exhaustion (cf. South Korea) or obsolence (cf. echbros' AI wet dreams). Once gone or too hard to mine, the drilling ops move on to another quarry just like with minerals (offshoring).
High fertility in the West is bad because the American and European human mines are capital-intensive while the global South still has billions of units laying bare on the ground. "Pronatalism" is only about the top of pyramid and the narrow slice just below it - white, educated, well-mannered, elegant, artistically minded and creative societe who perpetuate the imaginary, self-proclaimed "western culture". Shame they are also those who are too worried to have lots of kids in this economy and climate, but oh well.
Are you calling Musk elegant?
His mom certainly is despite everything
Moms don’t count
Yeah, but if you work from home, you get to spend more time with your kids. You're supposed to have children, not care about them. Just ask Elon about his kids or his own childhood.
That's because they're eugenists that very thinly veil the fact that they believe nazi shit
Actions do speak louder that words
This is all new to me, and I know I'm going to regret asking, but who are these people?
Elon Musk and Peter Thiel?
How fucking creepy are these people?
Very creepy
Who funds stoppoulationdecline.org? Population decline is a good thing. source
Apparently someone who hates Musk and loves working from home considering the article
I don't know, apparently this is the author's contact info. Ask him https://www.stoppopulationdecline.org/author/david/
Depends on what's causing decline. If its people not wanting kids then it's a good thing, it it's people not able to have the kids they want because Capitalism is squeezing them dry or assholes like Musk is reducing work flexibility then it's a bad thing
I have no love for capitalism. But population decline helps with climate change.
No, better and more effective and efficient systems help with Climate Change like Nuclear and Renewables, banning plastic in favor of infinitely recyclable glass, or more relevant, let people work from home instead of driving to an office building.
We live in a world of fixed costs that looks like it’s variable
Nuclear is not a panacea, mostly due to the cost, waste, and risk of catastrophe.
We can't grow our way out of this existential mess.
It's clear we need to reduce population.
Easy to agree on WFH, but of course that is just a drop in the bucket.
I wish I had your optimism, but this makes me doubtful.
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Population decline from the black death was the #1 factor that caused the Renaissance.
Nyaaah, when will people understand? No one in the rich and powerful and tech circles cares about people. We're "human resource" and always have been, one more mineral to be strip-mined until exhaustion (cf. South Korea) or obsolence (cf. echbros' AI wet dreams). Once gone or too hard to mine, the drilling ops move on to another quarry just like with minerals (offshoring).
High fertility in the West is bad because the American and European human mines are capital-intensive while the global South still has billions of units laying bare on the ground. "Pronatalism" is only about the top of pyramid and the narrow slice just below it - white, educated, well-mannered, elegant, artistically minded and creative societe who perpetuate the imaginary, self-proclaimed "western culture". Shame they are also those who are too worried to have lots of kids in this economy and climate, but oh well.
Are you calling Musk elegant?
His mom certainly is despite everything
Moms don’t count
Yeah, but if you work from home, you get to spend more time with your kids. You're supposed to have children, not care about them. Just ask Elon about his kids or his own childhood.