[question] Is it pointless buying virgin olive oil if you're just gonna heat it?
So as I understand it, virgin olive oil is made from cold pressing olives.
If I fry or roast stuff using virgin olive oil, did I just waste my money?
So as I understand it, virgin olive oil is made from cold pressing olives.
If I fry or roast stuff using virgin olive oil, did I just waste my money?
I think you should be fine, in fact, it's probably preferable to use EVOO over other oils even at higher temperatures.
From this study from 2020:
From this study from 2018:
I also found this Stove Top Temperature Chart handy to know what temperatures the knob levels translate to.
Always nice to see studies of these things! I feel like there's a lot of olive oil lore out there, it's cool to see that some of that lore checks out scientifically.
Thanks! It's good to know I'm not ruining it 🙂
don't overthink it. Use extra-virgin olive oil if you want to impart the flavor of green olives. Use refined/"light" olive oil if you want a healthy cooking oil that won't make your shit taste like olives. EVOO has a slightly lower smoke point, but if you aren't going higher than 400°F then either oil will work fine.
Its just not very heat tolerant, but if you can keep it below its low smoke point its fine
But if it's heated, even below it's smoke point, does it just become regular olive oil instead of virgin?
you can use it gently, the best EVOO you would just want to leave as is, but the lower quality ones would be fine for say the low temp saute you might do for a puttanesca or whatever.
Im not sure. Im seeing a lot of sources saying it retains health benefits like polyphenols. But also all of the sources are olive oil industry sites...theres a bizarrely large number of different industry PR sites for olive oil apparently.
No. It contains things that are temperature sensitive and can result in off flavors if overheated. A bit like butter, but in different ways.
(I'm going to write with confidence, but I'm not an expert, just grew up around chefs. Please feel free and welcome to fact check me.)
Yeah, EVOO is made by cold-pressing the olives, and regular olive oil by hot pressing. Cold pressing releases less oil and also several tasty compounds that come along for the ride. Hot pressing releases more oil but also other compounds that don't taste as nice, so generally regular olive oil will then be refined, removing most of the compounds that give it flavor. If you compare, you'll find that real EVOO[^1] tastes distinctly olive-y, and regular olive oil has very little flavor at all.
When it comes to cooking, traditional advice is not to cook with EVOO because it's got a low-ish smoke point[^2], whereas regular olive oil (which has been refined) will have a higher smoke point. EVOO's smoke point isn't actually that low, but I generally avoid high temp cooking with it anyway in favor of things like avocado oil (my personal go-to), peanut oil, or vegetable oil which are very tolerant of high temperatures. You absolutely can cook with EVOO though if you only want to keep one kind of oil around the house or something.
To clarify: heating up EVOO and cooking with it is fine as long as you don't smoke it. It won't make it any less extra-virgin or anything: to get those less good-tasting things into your oil, you need to heat up the olives themselves.
So are you wasting money if you do cook with it? Maybe.
Do you want what you're cooking to taste like olive oil? If you do, cook with it! Real[^1] EVOO has a distinct taste that won't go away when heated (unless you smoke it). It's great for making stuff like olive oil cake! If you don't care or don't want that flavor in whatever you're cooking, then yeah it's probably a waste of money. There are many less expensive oils that will work well and have neutral flavors or different flavors that you might prefer, including regular olive oil.
[^1]: All of this is avoiding the issue of regular olive oil being passed off as EVOO when it actually isn't. If you want something interesting to read about this evening, try researching olive oil fraud.
[^2]: In case you don't know, smoke point is the temperature where an oil starts to burn, which tastes bad, isn't very healthy, and will probably set off your smoke alarm.
Thanks for the in-depth answer!
Generally I keep two oils around the house. High quality, EVOO produced in my area of the world. And canola oil that I buy by the gallon and use for anything where I want more than just a little oil.
I just read up on olive oil fraud, interesting! I took some advice on testing it, and tried eating (drinking?) a spoonful. Even though I felt like a weirdo, I'm pretty sure mine is the real deal.
I guess I'll continue using it as I have been, as it seems heating it doesn't turn it into regular olive oil so long as you don't burn it. Thanks!
Glad you found it useful! When I started writing it nobody else had answered and by the time I posted it a bunch of other people had replied (that's what I get for walking away while writing it).
Not sure, but frying with olive oil is kind of a waste anyway
How so?
It has a strong flavor and a low smoke point. For frying, you usually want a neutral flavor and high smoke point.
I think that's probably the distinction though; EVOO has a much stronger flavour than the more plain OO. The latter is totally ok for a saute, or sweating off veg for a sauce etc, or roasting but as you note with a lower smoke point not so great for say doing steaks, or stir-frying - and far too expensive for deep-frying!
Oh, if I was (shallow) frying with olive oil, it would be for the olive flavour. Smoke point hasn't really been an issue, you can still brown things just fine using olive oil below it's smoke point.
If you ever do need a hot temp oil use rice bran oil.
Yes.
Virgin olive oil should be reserved for salads or to dip bread in.
I air fry and add the oil just before serving. It’s easier to clean up and the oil hasn’t been stressed.