Rumor that some Fediverse devs and admins had secret discussions with Facebook

salarua@sopuli.xyz to Fediverse@lemmy.ml – 3 points –
mstdn.social

it's an extraordinary claim, but i don't disbelieve it. has anyone else heard anything about this?

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For those who don't know, many fediverse devs and activitypub projects are funded in part by NLnet NGIZero grants, which are in turn funded by nonprofits like FSF (Free software foundation), NixOS, and the European Commission (!). Projects include the likes of Gitea/forgejo/forgefed (federation aspect of selfhosted git services), pixelfed, both Lemmy AND kbin, their apps like pixeldroid and lemmur, Mastodon, Misskey, Owncast, peertube, funkwhale, ActivityPub for WordPress, hubzilla, gotosocial, Matrix chat (specifically E2EE improvements), Fractal Matrix client, as well as other non-fediverse oriented projects like F-droid, Briar chat, nextcloud, jitsi meet, cryptpad, searx. (https://nlnet.nl/project/current.html)

The fediverse is very community donation and nonprofit funded right now.

Who got together and decided what it was "supposed to be"? Why does the fedi.tips account consistently behave as though they are some authority?

Either it's an open protocol or it isn't. If instances want to immediately defederate, that is their right of course. But to my mind it sort of demonstrates that they don't believe in what they preach, and they don't believe that they can offer a more compelling social offering, even with direct access to Meta's user base.

Literally every repeated talking point I've seen around this is all rumor and conjecture. At the end of the day we don't actually know how this will play out until Meta's offering is launched and we see how they do business.

Also unclear where the "paid off" aspect comes from. The linked post doesn't say anything about anybody being paid.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Otherwise it's just some rumor.

it is a pretty extraordinary claim, but not unbelievable. regardless of whether there's evidence, we should still be on the lookout for suspicious behavior

Seems feasible considering every attempt to discuss using more Fediverse just gets ignored. Like Peertube is sitting right there, but everyone that joined Mastodon instances is sharing YouTube links.

But people are like this in general, so it might be just predictable behaviour.

Friendi.ca is a Facebook alternative, but I don't want to leave anonymity again.

Pixelfed is a good Instagram alternative.

People are still using YouTube because it still works for them. Once Google ships something that changes that, folks will start looking for alternatives. Same goes for Owncast and Twitch.

I feel like the problem with moving away from youtube is that the larger chanels making money off of it arent going to want to move because they wont get monitized if they do. If they do move it will probably be to another corperate platform.

I really dont like what youtube is planning on doing by restricting adblockers and adding more unskippable ads though. Hopefully that moves at least some people to peertube.

I think any channel that's able to get away with crowdfunded monetization like Ko-Fi or Patreon would be able to make the switch comfortably.