Pro-Palestinian views face suppression in US amid Israel-Hamas war [The Guardian]

Andy@slrpnk.net to World News@lemmy.world – 20 points – Pro-Palestinian views face suppression in US amid Israel-Hamas war
theguardian.com

Conferences have been abruptly cancelled, media appearances suppressed and demands made to fire critics of Israeli policies.

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Same in the UK, saying anything even vaguely negative about Israel can get you into trouble.I wish we could have open and fair discussions, How will we ever end wars if we can not even Communicate?

And they want to break encryption... This is the point people have been arguing for years. Without being able to communicate freely you can't organize anything.

what r u talking about? literally the whole world is shitting on Israel non stop?

So the limits of the free speech of europeans are decided in Israel it seems. Are we gonna do something about it?

Also Worldnews on Reddit. It use to be 50/50. Now it's ridiculously all pro-Israel. If you have to use propaganda and psyops to convince people maybe you're the bad guys.

The problem on Reddit is, if you show any video that - shows how Israel truly is, it’ll get removed in 10 minutes.

For example, there was a thread where an Israeli politician said “the children of Gaza brought this upon themselves” and the thread got removed immediately.

I’m curious if you’re able to view it through the link: Reddit Thread

The only way I can access it, is through my own comment.

It has been flagged as 18+ / NSFW so you either have to sign up and confirm you are 18 in your profile … or you use Reddit Classic:

https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/17d64ob/the\_children\_in\_gaza\_have\_brought\_this\_upon/?share\_id=fvnuFm1wewpx8pW9grRkj&rdt=51014&xpromo\_edp=enabled

Do quit shitting on Reddit for this (can’t believe that I am defending Reddit)

Regarding the content itself: Don’t be intellectually lazy. Don’t be emotionally lazy. Don’t just see part of this terrible reality. (English with German subtitles)

actually the opposite, reddit is just as woke as lemmy in that regard :D

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Widespread attempts to suppress pro-Palestinian views in the US after the Hamas attack on Israel have forced the cancellation of major conferences, prompted demands for the dismissal of workers who express support for Palestinians and led to intimidation campaigns against Arab American voices critical of Israeli policies.

Earlier this week, a leading US Jewish group forced the cancellation of a major Palestinian campaign organisation’s national conference by alleging it was a front for Hamas, which killed more than 1,400 Israelis and abducted about 200 people in its attack from Gaza.

The Orthodox Jewish Chamber of Commerce has declared a “victory” after pressuring Hilton hotels into cancelling the US Campaign for Palestinian Rights event in Houston later this month at which the congresswoman Rashida Tlaib was to be the main speaker.

Honig’s message was reposted repeatedly on social media – with contact details for Hilton’s president, Christopher Nassetta – where it gained traction, with the USPCR being falsely accused of supporting statements by more marginal groups praising the Hamas attack.

The editor in chief of Harper’s Bazaar, Samira Nasr, drew fire for an Instagram post expressing concern for ordinary Palestinians after Israel shut down essential services to Gaza, which human rights groups say is a war crime.

The Jewish American author Nathan Thrall was scheduled to speak at an array of venues in the US and UK about his new and well received book A Day in the Life of Abed Salama: A Palestine Story, which the Guardian said “brims over with just the sort of compassion and understanding that is needed at a time like this”.

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Palestinian American activists say the cancellation of the conferences is part of a wider campaign by hardline Israel supporters, at times exploiting the extreme rhetoric of some student and leftwing groups celebrating or excusing the Hamas killings, to shut down views critical of Israel and the part its policies play in perpetuating conflict.

Well peaceful protests / demonstrations that don’t call for violence or condone/support Hamas should be allowed.

hamas is a terrorist organization

Supporting Hamas with a demonstration is by definition not peaceful in my book

Why do you reply to a month old comment though?

apologies didn't notice that, and no idea why the filters showed me such old posts..

Don’t be intellectually lazy. Don’t be emotionally lazy. Don’t just see part of this terrible reality. (English with German subtitles)

This guy says a few very sane things, and then just totally loses connection with reality.

He's right that there a huge risk to our while civilization, and that we need to deescalate both sides. He's right that there will never be peace or security until Palestinians have a future.

And then he says that the peace treaty with Saudi Arabia was a step forward: it is not. It is a deal between authoritarians to further legalize Isreal's ethnic cleansing program.

He says that Hamas should release the hostages without conditions. I wish they would, but that is as sensible as suggesting that they should all turn over their weapons and turn themselves in to be scheduled for execution. How is that anything other than a further embrace of the current Israeli peace plan, which is displacement, conquest, eradication? That's not acceptable.

The international community needs to demand that Israel afford Palestinians living under permanent occupation full civil rights as Israeli citizens (including displaced Palestinian refugees) in exchange for security measures and a staged binational reintegration.

It's this or continued gradual genocide.

Palestine started it.

And therefore they should not have any voice in the reporting? There's no viewpoint to give? There's no data to understand? There's no context which is useful in dealing with the situation?

That's certainly a take.

  1. History didn't "start" last week. Palestine has been under occupation for 75 years, and a lot has happened in the last few.

  2. "Palestine" didn't start this: you mean Hamas. Those are very different groups.

  3. The article is about threats of violence being used to silence and intimidate human rights groups. Even if you disagree with the politics of the targets of these threats, this is enormously dangerous and destabilizing to a democratic society.