The price may be midrange but the specs definitely are not.
That's really good, but I somehow doubt it would stay $550 when they sell it in western countries.
It better be. The Nubia Z60 Ultra with an 8 Gen 3 apprently will be 679€ in Germany.
What about updates, bloatware, spyware? A little bit more important than 144 Hz for essentially everything but gaming.
I can see a lot of people putting lineageos on this and debloating it.
I do not know one person changing their stock Android, let alone jailbreak iOS. Since it comes with drawbacks like broken banking apps, I would also not do it myself. So if you see a lot of people doing such things, you must know a very specific group of people.
You're on Lemmy my friend. There are a bunch of us running GrapheneOS. Some on CalyxOS, e/os, LineageOS. If you hang out around tech people enough, you'll meet some that change their Android phone OS.
Posting from my Oneplus 9 Pro running LineageOS as a proof we do exist! There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
As per the comment below: dozens. Next to nobody does that. Obviously there are going to be some here in this concentrate of tech people.
I absolutely agree with you that not many normal people are doing this. Which is why I pointed out that you'll find more of us in tech places like Lemmy and in other parts of the internet. If you interact outside then a lot of people are on iphones and standard google androids. Most don't even know the degoogling phone community even exists.
LineageOS GSI on my Samsung Tab 2019 Has made it still usable to this day, then there's the one with microg on my Pixel 2XL. Getting rid of play services axed about 800M of RAM usage for me. The Pixel is on Android 14 and the Tab will be the next time I update.
We are out there, we own our devices, and get value out of them well beyond their predefined expiration dates.
A tablet from 2019 needed a different OS to still be usable today...? I have 3 people with Galaxy S10 in my family because of me, the latest one got one not even a year ago. They are from 2019. They are perfectly fine with stock OS.
What does the extra free RAM help with?
Do not get me wrong. We absolutely need to own our devices and be able to install whatever we want. Or repair it wherever we want or at home.
Your tablets are premium line. Mine is an A series - budget model - so it was getting old when it was first released. I have an S8 now, and that will last longer.
Freeing up ram helps in a few ways. First, you can fit more apps in memory, so less unloading. Second, more room for zram swap, reducing reliance on much slower static ram for swap, and prolonging the life of the sd chip, too. Finally, it means that massive spyware is no longer siphoning cpu time from user apps. It's a win, win win!
And probably slave labour
What's the use-case for 24GB of RAM on a phone?
Running Docker via Termux, idk
Just as a precautionary measure to open one chrome tab before installing Firefox.
You joke. But, firefox on android starts killing tabs when your system is under memory pressure. Where even chrome would keep your tabs alive. This is not an issue on high memory devices but is noticeable on low ram smartphones.
I've had over 100 tabs open on my Firefox on Pixel 6 for months now. What are you doing that you can't keep tabs open on Firefox?
Let's just say. Some Games, streaming, social media and general apps like tasker, samsung health, sleep as android, among others. Your pixel 6 has 8gigs of ram. my samsung had 6gigs of physical ram. It wasn't until I switched to a 12gb ram device the reload issue was mitigated (not solved).
That particular one is done as of October 2022. However, it looks like you are doing more intensive work on your phone than I am on mine. Perhaps I just lack imagination, but I never could figure out what I could do with tasker to improve my usage, and I understand what it can do. It's just my life apparently doesn't demand such solutions.
I personally never experienced the issues described in Firefox. Perhaps I was just lucky. I will say that Chromite is definitely snappier than Firefox. If you haven't tried it yet, take a look. It is chock full of privacy protecting features, too.
I will say that Chromite is definitely snappier than Firefox
All chrome like browsers are fast. I was using bromite before it was abandoned. I have samsung internet as backup. But, I want my add-ons hence I continue to stick with fennec(Fdroid version of firefox). My current phone has 12GB of physical + 12GB of virtual ram. So, the tab reload issue is not that noticeable. But, I need to reload firefox when I toggle dark mode making that moot. The slowness I'm used to. Browsing the web without ublock I'm not.
Perhaps I just lack imagination, but I never could figure out what I could do with tasker to improve my usage, and I understand what it can do. It's just my life apparently doesn't demand such solutions.
It's nothing serious. Just some QOL improvements like turning on auto rotate when opening youtube, Netflix. Or turning on flight mode from 22:00 to 6:00, charging sounds to know when my phone starts charging, stops charging is fully charged
Yes, we have apps like MLCchat, maid and sherpa to name a few. The experience is not seamless even with 12gb of ram.
It's annoying that they'll put 24GB of RAM on a phone, but theyre still selling $1000 GPU with 16GB
"Higher gee-bees equals more gooder. Number go up!" -typical phone buyer, probably
No SD card slot, no 3.5 mm jack.
What the hell are you doing with sd card slot when there is one 1 tb worth of space? Seriously the 3.5mm jack I get, but not sd card. The space in modern phone has never ended with me and if the point is to move file from device to another you can just use usb cable or cloud storage. There is no reason to put sd card on phones anymore when theres so much space in phones
BUT DOES IT HAVE A HUGE BATTERY? Nothing matters if it can't run two days.
If can be fully charged under 20mins or less. Why would 2days battery matter in this scenario?
That's really good, but I somehow doubt it would stay $550 when they sell it in western countries.
It better be. The Nubia Z60 Ultra with an 8 Gen 3 apprently will be 679€ in Germany.
What about updates, bloatware, spyware? A little bit more important than 144 Hz for essentially everything but gaming.
I can see a lot of people putting lineageos on this and debloating it.
I do not know one person changing their stock Android, let alone jailbreak iOS. Since it comes with drawbacks like broken banking apps, I would also not do it myself. So if you see a lot of people doing such things, you must know a very specific group of people.
You're on Lemmy my friend. There are a bunch of us running GrapheneOS. Some on CalyxOS, e/os, LineageOS. If you hang out around tech people enough, you'll meet some that change their Android phone OS.
Posting from my Oneplus 9 Pro running LineageOS as a proof we do exist! There are dozens of us. DOZENS!
As per the comment below: dozens. Next to nobody does that. Obviously there are going to be some here in this concentrate of tech people.
I absolutely agree with you that not many normal people are doing this. Which is why I pointed out that you'll find more of us in tech places like Lemmy and in other parts of the internet. If you interact outside then a lot of people are on iphones and standard google androids. Most don't even know the degoogling phone community even exists.
LineageOS GSI on my Samsung Tab 2019 Has made it still usable to this day, then there's the one with microg on my Pixel 2XL. Getting rid of play services axed about 800M of RAM usage for me. The Pixel is on Android 14 and the Tab will be the next time I update.
We are out there, we own our devices, and get value out of them well beyond their predefined expiration dates.
A tablet from 2019 needed a different OS to still be usable today...? I have 3 people with Galaxy S10 in my family because of me, the latest one got one not even a year ago. They are from 2019. They are perfectly fine with stock OS.
What does the extra free RAM help with?
Do not get me wrong. We absolutely need to own our devices and be able to install whatever we want. Or repair it wherever we want or at home.
Your tablets are premium line. Mine is an A series - budget model - so it was getting old when it was first released. I have an S8 now, and that will last longer.
Freeing up ram helps in a few ways. First, you can fit more apps in memory, so less unloading. Second, more room for zram swap, reducing reliance on much slower static ram for swap, and prolonging the life of the sd chip, too. Finally, it means that massive spyware is no longer siphoning cpu time from user apps. It's a win, win win!
And probably slave labour
What's the use-case for 24GB of RAM on a phone?
Running Docker via Termux, idk
Just as a precautionary measure to open one chrome tab before installing Firefox.
You joke. But, firefox on android starts killing tabs when your system is under memory pressure. Where even chrome would keep your tabs alive. This is not an issue on high memory devices but is noticeable on low ram smartphones.
I've had over 100 tabs open on my Firefox on Pixel 6 for months now. What are you doing that you can't keep tabs open on Firefox?
Let's just say. Some Games, streaming, social media and general apps like tasker, samsung health, sleep as android, among others. Your pixel 6 has 8gigs of ram. my samsung had 6gigs of physical ram. It wasn't until I switched to a 12gb ram device the reload issue was mitigated (not solved).
The issue has been present since the fenix rewrite from 2020. Here's the issue from the github archive: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/12731#event-8105829420
That particular one is done as of October 2022. However, it looks like you are doing more intensive work on your phone than I am on mine. Perhaps I just lack imagination, but I never could figure out what I could do with tasker to improve my usage, and I understand what it can do. It's just my life apparently doesn't demand such solutions.
I personally never experienced the issues described in Firefox. Perhaps I was just lucky. I will say that Chromite is definitely snappier than Firefox. If you haven't tried it yet, take a look. It is chock full of privacy protecting features, too.
Actually, it's not. They just moved to bugzilla. Hers the open issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1807364
All chrome like browsers are fast. I was using bromite before it was abandoned. I have samsung internet as backup. But, I want my add-ons hence I continue to stick with fennec(Fdroid version of firefox). My current phone has 12GB of physical + 12GB of virtual ram. So, the tab reload issue is not that noticeable. But, I need to reload firefox when I toggle dark mode making that moot. The slowness I'm used to. Browsing the web without ublock I'm not.
It's nothing serious. Just some QOL improvements like turning on auto rotate when opening youtube, Netflix. Or turning on flight mode from 22:00 to 6:00, charging sounds to know when my phone starts charging, stops charging is fully charged
You can check taskernet for some projects: https://taskernet.com/?public&tags=Basics&time=AllTime Check the chop motion example for flashlight as an example: https://taskernet.com/shares/?user=AS35m8ne7oO4s%2BaDx%2FwlzjdFTfVMWstg1ay5AkpiNdrLoSXEZdFfw1IpXiyJCVLNW0yn&id=Profile%3AChop+Motion+Flashlight+And+Others
Future proofing, I guess?
LLMs
Yes, we have apps like MLCchat, maid and sherpa to name a few. The experience is not seamless even with 12gb of ram.
It's annoying that they'll put 24GB of RAM on a phone, but theyre still selling $1000 GPU with 16GB
"Higher gee-bees equals more gooder. Number go up!" -typical phone buyer, probably
No SD card slot, no 3.5 mm jack.
What the hell are you doing with sd card slot when there is one 1 tb worth of space? Seriously the 3.5mm jack I get, but not sd card. The space in modern phone has never ended with me and if the point is to move file from device to another you can just use usb cable or cloud storage. There is no reason to put sd card on phones anymore when theres so much space in phones
BUT DOES IT HAVE A HUGE BATTERY? Nothing matters if it can't run two days.
If can be fully charged under 20mins or less. Why would 2days battery matter in this scenario?