Tenacious flu

ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org to Malicious Compliance@lemmy.world – 24 points –

My company offers 3 days of unjustified sick leave for things like colds or minor health issues that don't really require seeing a doctor.

And sure enough, that guy - always that guy - got sick on Monday, then took a day off on Thursday, and now he's sick again on Friday. Strangely, his company car reports being at a ski resort 200 miles away.

Because you know, when you're bedridden, at least you should have a nice view out the window...

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Manager at a FAANG here. Three days of sick leave (per year I’m guessing) is fucking insanely low. Just a flu will take someone out for a week easily. If you force them to come in or else take unpaid time off/risk being fired you’re going to a) get someone who is marginally productive at best and b) likely to get more coworkers sick, causing a bigger slowdown and costing the company more money. You also come off like the person who writes the memo that 40% of sick time is taken on a Monday or a Friday.

You’re Colin Robinson, the energy vampire of your office.

Usually in most civilized countries it's three-days-at-once. Or more specifically over here, on the fourth day of continuously being sick, I need to see a doctor. The first two days are alright with just me telling them I'm sick.

In parts of Europa IT is common to have three days you can just call in sick without providing a slip from a physician. After those Initial three days you need to see a doctor. But if you want to "game the System" you can call in sick for three days, Show up one day and then leave for three days again.

Though one should note that beyond a certain number of days - varies by country - your company can then require you to immediately get medical attestation for further sick days, and also they can require a second opinion from another doctor they get to pick.

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I didn’t even know “unjustified sick leave” is a thing. It should just be are you sick or not, no other questions.

I maintain millions of dollars worth of equipment and company data, yet you don’t trust me when I say I’m sick!?

I had a violent gastro thing, vomiting and diarrhoea for two days, I could barely walk. When I called in on the third day, the boss demanded a doctor’s certificate. On being told that I couldn’t safely drive to the doctor, he asked “How will I know that you’re really sick?”. I sent him a photo of the contents of the toilet. He didn’t ask again, and never mentioned it again.

OP probably meant that they are days you don't need to justify (doctors note) to your manager.

Right, but what I’m saying is employees shouldn’t have to justify or provide a reason/proof that they are sick. If there is a set number of paid sick leaves provided, then let them use it. If they use it to take a vacation then have to take unpaid leave when they actually get sick, that’s on them.

In the country I am in there is no set number of sick leave days. With most companies it is 2-3 days in a row without a doctors note and if longer you need a note.

What I always wonder, in countries with a set number of sick leave days, what do people do when they used all up and are still sick? I mean you can hardly go to work with Influenza or Corona or so, or?

I take my regular leave, or do leave without pay at that point. There was special leave for covid, not sure if it still exists though, and it might have been company specific.

40% of sick days are taken on a Monday or a Friday. Clearly people are gaming the system!

40% of sick days are taken on 30% of the days of the week. (Or 40% of work days)

(If yours was a joke, I missed it, it's too early right now and I imagine some managers I know would tout that as an important statistic. )

The joke is 40% of the work days account for 40% of the sick days meaning everything is fine. But some people just see the 40% number and assume people are gaming the system when it's actually all perfectly statistically normal with no games.

It's straight out of the book how to lie with statistics even though the number is totally true you give it an inference that points to your agenda