The Yuzu people are easily startled, but they’ll soon be back, and in greater numbers
I really hope this is true. I know Yuzu will be pretty safe when it comes to finding it in the future, even if it's not "official".
That being said, what really worries me is emulation for the next gen switch and if anyone will be willing to attempt to create it, and if not what will happen when it comes to preservation of that console.
There were rumors that Nintendo was looking into system-wide denuvo for the Switch, and that they may be looking to implement that into their newest console. If so, it may not be possible to emulate or even homebrew the next Nintendo console.
Doesn't it take like two months for people to crack Denuvo?
My understanding is that it depends on how well it's implemented. Sometimes games get cracked quickly, sometimes they don't get cracked at all. Considering this is Nintendo, I'd be willing to bet they're going all-in and will make it extremely hard to crack.
Nothing is uncrackable on a long enough timeline.
Wasn't Empress the only person that could crack denuvo?
If Nintendo puts it in their consoles everyone will be trying to crack it.
Trying is the right term here. If it was easily crackable there would be multiple people doing it, especially considering the track record of Empress.
Not anymore I think? Pretty sure since at least last year games with Denuvo are no longer crackable. Or at least no one is cracking them.
"Easily startled"? It wasn't a simple C&D dude. They got sued by a vindictive international company worth $50bill USD with a cult following that defends its every action in a hostile, pro-corporate legal environment (the US). The settlement alone shows how absolutely fucked they were.
When was this ever up for debate? Emulation isn't even piracy.
I once saw this guy fart on a juvenile monkey
Wait didn't yuzu have a pretty good case on this? Like, they are free and open source, they do not make any money off of this by selling software and there is no actually bad stuff included, you gotta get those files from the switch itself. So what even was their reason to take it down?
They made money on their patreon and Nintendo was going to go after the fact that they had a crazy increase in patreon subscriptions in May 2023 because the early-access builds worked with Zelda ToTK before it came out.
Ah, I see. So they are being taken down because the software is future proof?
I think they made patches for ToTK and released them in the early access build before ToTK even launched (the game files leaked online around a week or two before) so Nintendo's argument was that they were directly promoting and profiting from piracy (different from profiting from legal emulation).
Luckily because of the way they settled I don't think this actually implicates any forks that pop up so hopefully projects like suyu and whatever pops up for Citra can still continue development (not a lawyer tho)
I mean, I had homebrew at the time and I also played it pre releases so they just let that slip through?
It's a lot harder to go after homebrew since there isn't anything directly linking atmosphere/hekate/etc. devs to the promotion of piracy.
Since the Yuzu team had a whole company formed to manage their patreon funds and were clearly promoting functionality for a game that hasn't been released yet, they were an easy target for Nintendo. The same thing happened with Team Xecuter's switch homebrew/mods ages ago.
If Nintendo had definitive evidence to suggest the Atmosphere devs are profiting off of piracy, they'd do the same thing in a heartbeat. Same with Ryujinx, Luma3ds, or any other form of emulation/homebrew. The only reason they don't is because they know only way they'd stand a chance in court is if they make it about piracy, copyright protection, and stolen profits.
The Yuzu people are easily startled, but they’ll soon be back, and in greater numbers
I really hope this is true. I know Yuzu will be pretty safe when it comes to finding it in the future, even if it's not "official".
That being said, what really worries me is emulation for the next gen switch and if anyone will be willing to attempt to create it, and if not what will happen when it comes to preservation of that console.
There were rumors that Nintendo was looking into system-wide denuvo for the Switch, and that they may be looking to implement that into their newest console. If so, it may not be possible to emulate or even homebrew the next Nintendo console.
Doesn't it take like two months for people to crack Denuvo?
My understanding is that it depends on how well it's implemented. Sometimes games get cracked quickly, sometimes they don't get cracked at all. Considering this is Nintendo, I'd be willing to bet they're going all-in and will make it extremely hard to crack.
Nothing is uncrackable on a long enough timeline.
Wasn't Empress the only person that could crack denuvo?
If Nintendo puts it in their consoles everyone will be trying to crack it.
Trying is the right term here. If it was easily crackable there would be multiple people doing it, especially considering the track record of Empress.
Not anymore I think? Pretty sure since at least last year games with Denuvo are no longer crackable. Or at least no one is cracking them.
"Easily startled"? It wasn't a simple C&D dude. They got sued by a vindictive international company worth $50bill USD with a cult following that defends its every action in a hostile, pro-corporate legal environment (the US). The settlement alone shows how absolutely fucked they were.
When was this ever up for debate? Emulation isn't even piracy.
I once saw this guy fart on a juvenile monkey
Wait didn't yuzu have a pretty good case on this? Like, they are free and open source, they do not make any money off of this by selling software and there is no actually bad stuff included, you gotta get those files from the switch itself. So what even was their reason to take it down?
They made money on their patreon and Nintendo was going to go after the fact that they had a crazy increase in patreon subscriptions in May 2023 because the early-access builds worked with Zelda ToTK before it came out.
Ah, I see. So they are being taken down because the software is future proof?
I think they made patches for ToTK and released them in the early access build before ToTK even launched (the game files leaked online around a week or two before) so Nintendo's argument was that they were directly promoting and profiting from piracy (different from profiting from legal emulation).
Luckily because of the way they settled I don't think this actually implicates any forks that pop up so hopefully projects like suyu and whatever pops up for Citra can still continue development (not a lawyer tho)
I mean, I had homebrew at the time and I also played it pre releases so they just let that slip through?
It's a lot harder to go after homebrew since there isn't anything directly linking atmosphere/hekate/etc. devs to the promotion of piracy.
Since the Yuzu team had a whole company formed to manage their patreon funds and were clearly promoting functionality for a game that hasn't been released yet, they were an easy target for Nintendo. The same thing happened with Team Xecuter's switch homebrew/mods ages ago.
If Nintendo had definitive evidence to suggest the Atmosphere devs are profiting off of piracy, they'd do the same thing in a heartbeat. Same with Ryujinx, Luma3ds, or any other form of emulation/homebrew. The only reason they don't is because they know only way they'd stand a chance in court is if they make it about piracy, copyright protection, and stolen profits.