Mozilla review of 25 car brands finds they're "a privacy nightmare"

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It’s Official: Cars Are Terrible at Privacy and Security
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I imagine my “tone” would be better if we weren’t already facing catastrophic global sea level rises, bigger and stronger and longer hurricanes, intense droughts and heatwaves that persist for weeks, wildfires six times the size of normal, global temperature increases, more tropical diseases moving north….but hey, I guess I should just be nicer to people that think it’s okay and would rather be a contributing factor to all that than be tracked by their car less than their phone!

And most of that comes from private jet usage or large corporate manufacturing. But yes, go off on some random university student on Lemmy because -checks notes- I drive an old car.

Collectively, cars and trucks account for nearly one-fifth of all US emissions, emitting around 24 pounds of carbon dioxide and other global-warming gases for every gallon of gas.

Oh shit, well if it’s only 20% we shouldn’t even think about it then! Blame-less Blame-less Blame-less! Woo!

Cool stat, I don’t live in the US. Sounds like Americans have more to answer for than I do in regards to car emissions. By your own (uncited) quote, taking every car off the road would still leave 80% of polluters operating. I wonder how many of those are related to some sort of corporate entity.

I already said that I take personal responsibility and take public transportation unless I absolutely cannot, but you don’t care because you just like being angry, so whatever. How much exactly are you doing to stop carbon emissions?

You know that meme where people say “eat the rich” and then target doctors and artists who charge $200 commissions instead of billionaires? That’s you rn.

I was hoping you’d mention globally!

https://imgur.com/a/88aWuMD

Ouch. That didn’t work out so hot for ya did it?

Lmao this is so funny, now send the breakdown of by country.

I got you.

My country isn’t even in the top 10.

You can do it yourself here my dude. I’m guessing you’ll give it a try whenever you reach that goal post you keep moving, so likely never lmao.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1185535/transport-carbon-dioxide-emissions-breakdown/#:~:text=The%20global%20transportation%20sector%20is,percent%20of%20global%20transportation%20emissions.

What goalpost? I literally said I use public transport, but go off. I’m done, I actually have to take the subway to my work now. Enjoy arguing on the internet!

The one where first it didn’t matter because it came from private jets and then it didn’t matter because it was from America and finally it didn’t matter that it was global?

Even though it was specifically car emissions contributing that we were discussing the entire time.

But hey ignorance is bliss my friend!

Oh btw, speaking of moving goalposts

By your own (uncited) quote, taking every car off the road would still leave 80% of polluters operating. I wonder how many of those are related to some sort of corporate entity.

You never did answer this.

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Privacy is very important to a lot of people. It doesn't seem like it is to you, but to some of us it really is a reason why a new car is simply unacceptable to us.

There is no reason they couldn't make newer vehicles that are eco friendly without the data collection. Just because you are willing to trade your privacy for marginal emissions gains doesn't mean everyone is.

And I say marginal, because many older vehicles could easily be maintained at a much lower cost than a new vehicle is. And an older vehicle, well maintained, can easily get very close or better than modern vehicles emissions, excluding EVs.

It isn't the age of the car that's the issue so much as maintenance and size. Sedans and coupes are far more ecological than trucks and SUVs.

Anger isn't going to fix anything. We need to come together and not be divided further.

It’s going to take both of those things combined to overcome the natural instinct for human apathy. People overwhelmingly don’t give a fuck until something affects them.

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