Windows plays every PC game in existence and plays them better though. It also allows you to use the device as a pc replacement via displaying the screen on a tv/monitor. It’s the best OS to go with imo.
Windows plays every PC game in existence
There's a surprising amount of older PC games that don't work on Windows anymore, but work fine on Linux. I remember trying to play New Vegas a few years ago on Windows 10 and needing four separate mods just to get it to play properly, and even after all that it would still crash every 15-20 minutes. I've since played it all the way through on Fedora and SteamOS with zero tinkering and no crashes.
It also allows you to use the device as a pc replacement via displaying the screen on a tv/monitor
you can do this on steamos
you can do this on steamos
Not with windows you can't, which is the OS the overwhelmingly large majority of people want to use.
There’s a surprising amount of older PC games that don’t work on Windows anymore, but work fine on Linux.
There's more that work and work better on Windows than Linux than there are the other way around though.
Not with windows you can’t, which is the OS the overwhelmingly large majority of people want to use.
Most people don't replace SteamOS on their device so I don't think that's true. Plasma is a perfectly suitable replacement for Windows unless you really need access to Adobe products or something.
There’s more that work and work better on Windows than Linux than there are the other way around though.
True but It's a number that is shrinking every day. We are down to about ~100 games at this point that explicitly cannot work? I play a lot of games and I can't remember the last time I tried to play a game and it didn't work because I was on Linux.
Yeah I’m saying that with an Ally for example you essentially have a fully functioning windows pc, whereas with steamOS you don’t.
I don't think there is any confusion about that
so you're a windows stan, or what's your deal?
lol not everyone that likes a different OS is a "stan". The meme in the OP is about windows on steam deck competitors. I'm pointing out why windows on steam deck competitors has lots of benefits. Why can't you handle that?
i haven't even personally seen any of these things. so no, I literally can't handle that. i'm also very annoyed buy steam and valve, in general. but windows? windows is the worst.
i haven’t even personally seen any of these things. so no
You're not on many gaming forums then, especially not PC ones.
Windows is the best PC operating system there is because basically everything is made for it and everything works on it.
i meant I've never physically been near one of these things, specifically the Steam Deck or its competitors.
You’re not on many gaming forums then, especially not PC ones.
yeah, I'm not. i build my own, but i don't need that toxic silly trash.
Ok cool, so you probably shouldn't be having this conversation about things you're not seeing.
i'm comfortable with windows and with linux. the hardware in all these things is interesting. so you want to go with proprietary software. love you for it.
I'm fine with proprietary software, yes. I go with the software that best meets my needs, and that's Windows. I'm not saying you can't prefer linux, I'm just giving my reasons why Windows is what most people prefer.
no one has forgotten that Windows is the most popular. who cares. you're the one yelling about windows on mobile platforms and it is the best shit ever. I still think linux is better, but it's debatable. this is like arguing with my grandpa after he got DOS 6.0 in a box, on 3.5" disks. He thought he was the most clever of fellows. Fuck him.
you’re the one yelling about windows on mobile platforms and it is the best shit ever.
I'm not though. I'm explaining the reasons why the meme is shit.
the overwhelmingly large majority of people want to use
you state this as fact yet my experience has been that people hate using windows for its UI on handhelds and only tolerate it because everything's made for it. that's not a shining point for windows, quite the opposite.
the steam deck surpassed a million devices sold - so while over 50% of people probably still want windows, i wouldn't say its an "overwhelming" majority. tons of people clearly like valve's take on linux even despite its limitations
Windows makes deck more like a laptop. No comfortable ui/sleep, so it's like steam deck with everything good taken away but with compatibility.
I'll take compatibility over sleep mode tbh. Most people play their steam decks at home anyway, so battery life isn't an issue.
The ROG Ally isn't like a laptop at all either. The difference is that you can use it as a PC if you want, unlike the steam deck running steamOS.
...I can use steamOS like a PC if I want. It's an arch-based KDE desktop with steam on it. I can do whatever I want to do.
When was the last time you used Linux, 2008, lmao?
I clarified in other comments - people want windows as their pc, not Linux. The ROG Ally doubles as a full blown Windows PC. SteamOS is Linux as you know, and that’s not the OS of choice for the overwhelmingly large majority of the population.
I don't, why are you speaking for 7 billion people?
Because one look at desktop OS market share proves my point.
If you're building a high-powered machine, maybe, but one of the points of these handhelds is that they don't have a chunky GPU, a case full of fans, and an always-available power supply. Ignoring the points others have made about suspend/resume, Windows is a bit bulky and bloated, and running it on hardware that wants to be performant and power-efficient is apparently not that practical.
plays them better, tho
My eyebrow is now in my hair.
Explain yourself.
Windows plays Windows games better than Linux plays Windows games.
I can do that without Windows and most of my games run better on Linux. Best is very subjective.
I want that spicy, chunky chili. but windows brings bugs and ads. windows is like getting eat up by mosquitos while the chili is thin and tepid.
Windows plays every PC game in existence and plays them better though. It also allows you to use the device as a pc replacement via displaying the screen on a tv/monitor. It’s the best OS to go with imo.
There's a surprising amount of older PC games that don't work on Windows anymore, but work fine on Linux. I remember trying to play New Vegas a few years ago on Windows 10 and needing four separate mods just to get it to play properly, and even after all that it would still crash every 15-20 minutes. I've since played it all the way through on Fedora and SteamOS with zero tinkering and no crashes.
you can do this on steamos
Not with windows you can't, which is the OS the overwhelmingly large majority of people want to use.
There's more that work and work better on Windows than Linux than there are the other way around though.
Most people don't replace SteamOS on their device so I don't think that's true. Plasma is a perfectly suitable replacement for Windows unless you really need access to Adobe products or something.
True but It's a number that is shrinking every day. We are down to about ~100 games at this point that explicitly cannot work? I play a lot of games and I can't remember the last time I tried to play a game and it didn't work because I was on Linux.
Yeah I’m saying that with an Ally for example you essentially have a fully functioning windows pc, whereas with steamOS you don’t.
I don't think there is any confusion about that
so you're a windows stan, or what's your deal?
lol not everyone that likes a different OS is a "stan". The meme in the OP is about windows on steam deck competitors. I'm pointing out why windows on steam deck competitors has lots of benefits. Why can't you handle that?
i haven't even personally seen any of these things. so no, I literally can't handle that. i'm also very annoyed buy steam and valve, in general. but windows? windows is the worst.
You're not on many gaming forums then, especially not PC ones.
Windows is the best PC operating system there is because basically everything is made for it and everything works on it.
i meant I've never physically been near one of these things, specifically the Steam Deck or its competitors.
yeah, I'm not. i build my own, but i don't need that toxic silly trash.
Ok cool, so you probably shouldn't be having this conversation about things you're not seeing.
i'm comfortable with windows and with linux. the hardware in all these things is interesting. so you want to go with proprietary software. love you for it.
I'm fine with proprietary software, yes. I go with the software that best meets my needs, and that's Windows. I'm not saying you can't prefer linux, I'm just giving my reasons why Windows is what most people prefer.
no one has forgotten that Windows is the most popular. who cares. you're the one yelling about windows on mobile platforms and it is the best shit ever. I still think linux is better, but it's debatable. this is like arguing with my grandpa after he got DOS 6.0 in a box, on 3.5" disks. He thought he was the most clever of fellows. Fuck him.
I'm not though. I'm explaining the reasons why the meme is shit.
you state this as fact yet my experience has been that people hate using windows for its UI on handhelds and only tolerate it because everything's made for it. that's not a shining point for windows, quite the opposite.
the steam deck surpassed a million devices sold - so while over 50% of people probably still want windows, i wouldn't say its an "overwhelming" majority. tons of people clearly like valve's take on linux even despite its limitations
Windows makes deck more like a laptop. No comfortable ui/sleep, so it's like steam deck with everything good taken away but with compatibility.
I'll take compatibility over sleep mode tbh. Most people play their steam decks at home anyway, so battery life isn't an issue.
The ROG Ally isn't like a laptop at all either. The difference is that you can use it as a PC if you want, unlike the steam deck running steamOS.
...I can use steamOS like a PC if I want. It's an arch-based KDE desktop with steam on it. I can do whatever I want to do.
When was the last time you used Linux, 2008, lmao?
I clarified in other comments - people want windows as their pc, not Linux. The ROG Ally doubles as a full blown Windows PC. SteamOS is Linux as you know, and that’s not the OS of choice for the overwhelmingly large majority of the population.
I don't, why are you speaking for 7 billion people?
Because one look at desktop OS market share proves my point.
If you're building a high-powered machine, maybe, but one of the points of these handhelds is that they don't have a chunky GPU, a case full of fans, and an always-available power supply. Ignoring the points others have made about suspend/resume, Windows is a bit bulky and bloated, and running it on hardware that wants to be performant and power-efficient is apparently not that practical.
My eyebrow is now in my hair.
Explain yourself.
Windows plays Windows games better than Linux plays Windows games.
I can do that without Windows and most of my games run better on Linux. Best is very subjective.
I want that spicy, chunky chili. but windows brings bugs and ads. windows is like getting eat up by mosquitos while the chili is thin and tepid.