The FCC order will take effect 30 days after it's published in the Federal Register. A public draft of the order was released ahead of the FCC meeting.
So bad actors have at least 30 days to pull as much data as they can right now. People who keep their existing phone numbers may very well still be targets of robocalls because a database can be compiled right now, if it hasn't already happened. And unless you change your number and your new number is a currently unassigned number, you could still be targeted, since the number is in a list of phone numbers; your new number just wouldn't be listed as assigned to you. So maybe 10-15% of the people who change their phone numbers will be OK?
these new rules have nothing to do with how the bad guys obtain targets' phone numbers, they're about how they get assigned phone numbers.
This explains the 4 different "Hey! I got your number at the XX meetup." and "Hey, let's go play golf tomorrow!" type texts ove gotten this week. Trying to validate info.
EDIT: RTFA (says to myself)... this just makes it harder for shell companies to setup shop in the US and get blocks of US numbers to make VOIP calls/texts from. Someone will at least be held accountable, so they have to burn people (in jail) or get fined etc in their home country.
Ive been thinking of changing carriers. may just do this after the 30 days and go for a new number.
I just have any calls that aren't from my contacts forwarded to Google voice using Yet Another Call Blocker.
Besides, I don't use my phone number for calls - that all happens with messengers these days (Telegram, etc), so I know you're a telemarketer anyway.
thats fine for most individuals but hospitals and doctors offices for those with medical issues. Well that makes it hard. They often to not call from the "official number".
Yea, that sucks.
For those I give my Google voice number.
Not an elegant solution, for sure. Fortunately my Healthcare system also uses video calls via their app for security purposes.
Not sure what else can really be done.
oh the word app (assuming cell phone) and me do not mix.
Yea, I hear ya. Lots of shitty apps these days with excessive perms.
I root, run a firewall, and lock the little bastards down. No, you don't get location perms. No, you don't launch at boot, or when I plug in to charge, or when a media button is pressed. So many shitty receiver registrations, and running in the background. Nope, removing that too.
I just don't even want a smart phone. I have one for work because I have to but only work stuff goes on it. Im surprised most will run like that. I have a hard time getting them to run on a tablet.
I can understand the sentiment, for sure.
I just want my pocket computer, with everything controlled by me.
With today's storage capability, I can have all my dictionaries local, I could probably host a decent encyclopedia, and my physiology apps, etc.
Everything else will go through a vpn, with no location/identifiers, etc, being sent.
Lineage with Magisk Root & XPrivacy modules, plus MicroG can do this.
And with self-hosting, I can use messaging apps like Snikket, Litewire, Simplex, etc (the challenge being getting others on board, which is where my self-hosting comes in. I can create accounts for friends/family, and they don't have to do anything).
yeah. One of my dreams is a feature phone with internet tethering capability so I can just use a standard tablet or laptop with it.
Ooh, that's an interesting idea. Not sure if it exists - using my Treo years ago as a Hotspot was pretty challenging, and it was an early smart phone.
Many laptops today have a SIM slot - just get a cheap data plan. You can also get a cell card that plugs into USB. Back in the day we had PCCARD slot cell cards. That was nice.
Xfinity had a deal when we switched from Verizon - a data-only Sim for $10/mo that uses the shared data on our plan. Great for the iPad.
yeah would love to do it though without a smart phone. Oh also im pretty sure it does not exist. I look for something like it every so often. I basically don't bother with a cell phone just use google voice and my work one.
You could get an older pixel, and run Graphene on it. Their goal is security and privacy, to the point of being able to lock down anything/everything.
I prefer the Pixel 4A. It's mostly plastic so lighter, pretty cheap ($120 from Walmart online). OLED screen, so easy on battery.
Without Google services (courtesy of Graphene) battery life should be great, and it pretty much makes it a feature phone since you can lock it down so well. On my test phones, disabling Google services gives me 10-20% more battery time. Screen is the other big user (for IPS screens anyway, OLED is much kinder to battery).
Since you use Google voice, you could get a Sim card that's data only, not even text, so no worries about spam calls/text.
And it could still function as a Hotspot.
Even Lineage could provide what you're looking for, since it also comes without Google Services. Though it can run on more devices, so you can pickup any old device that meets your needs. (Except Samsung, they're a bit of a pain to flash).
GSM Arena has a great search tool for finding the phones that meet your requirements. It's really helped me over the years, since I'm kind of particular (fingerprint sensor n side o back is a requirement, as is Verizon compatibility). Though it's hard to beat the Pixel 4, for size, weight, battery capacity, durability, cost, ease of flashing.
I really think Lineage or Graphene can provide the functionality what you're looking for. And both are super easy to install on a Pixel.
So bad actors have at least 30 days to pull as much data as they can right now. People who keep their existing phone numbers may very well still be targets of robocalls because a database can be compiled right now, if it hasn't already happened. And unless you change your number and your new number is a currently unassigned number, you could still be targeted, since the number is in a list of phone numbers; your new number just wouldn't be listed as assigned to you. So maybe 10-15% of the people who change their phone numbers will be OK?
these new rules have nothing to do with how the bad guys obtain targets' phone numbers, they're about how they get assigned phone numbers.
It’s tangentially related so I can discuss it.
This explains the 4 different "Hey! I got your number at the XX meetup." and "Hey, let's go play golf tomorrow!" type texts ove gotten this week. Trying to validate info.
EDIT: RTFA (says to myself)... this just makes it harder for shell companies to setup shop in the US and get blocks of US numbers to make VOIP calls/texts from. Someone will at least be held accountable, so they have to burn people (in jail) or get fined etc in their home country.
Ive been thinking of changing carriers. may just do this after the 30 days and go for a new number.
I just have any calls that aren't from my contacts forwarded to Google voice using Yet Another Call Blocker.
https://gitlab.com/xynngh/YetAnotherCallBlocker
Besides, I don't use my phone number for calls - that all happens with messengers these days (Telegram, etc), so I know you're a telemarketer anyway.
thats fine for most individuals but hospitals and doctors offices for those with medical issues. Well that makes it hard. They often to not call from the "official number".
Yea, that sucks.
For those I give my Google voice number.
Not an elegant solution, for sure. Fortunately my Healthcare system also uses video calls via their app for security purposes.
Not sure what else can really be done.
oh the word app (assuming cell phone) and me do not mix.
Yea, I hear ya. Lots of shitty apps these days with excessive perms.
I root, run a firewall, and lock the little bastards down. No, you don't get location perms. No, you don't launch at boot, or when I plug in to charge, or when a media button is pressed. So many shitty receiver registrations, and running in the background. Nope, removing that too.
I just don't even want a smart phone. I have one for work because I have to but only work stuff goes on it. Im surprised most will run like that. I have a hard time getting them to run on a tablet.
I can understand the sentiment, for sure.
I just want my pocket computer, with everything controlled by me.
With today's storage capability, I can have all my dictionaries local, I could probably host a decent encyclopedia, and my physiology apps, etc.
Everything else will go through a vpn, with no location/identifiers, etc, being sent.
Lineage with Magisk Root & XPrivacy modules, plus MicroG can do this.
And with self-hosting, I can use messaging apps like Snikket, Litewire, Simplex, etc (the challenge being getting others on board, which is where my self-hosting comes in. I can create accounts for friends/family, and they don't have to do anything).
yeah. One of my dreams is a feature phone with internet tethering capability so I can just use a standard tablet or laptop with it.
Ooh, that's an interesting idea. Not sure if it exists - using my Treo years ago as a Hotspot was pretty challenging, and it was an early smart phone.
Many laptops today have a SIM slot - just get a cheap data plan. You can also get a cell card that plugs into USB. Back in the day we had PCCARD slot cell cards. That was nice.
Xfinity had a deal when we switched from Verizon - a data-only Sim for $10/mo that uses the shared data on our plan. Great for the iPad.
yeah would love to do it though without a smart phone. Oh also im pretty sure it does not exist. I look for something like it every so often. I basically don't bother with a cell phone just use google voice and my work one.
You could get an older pixel, and run Graphene on it. Their goal is security and privacy, to the point of being able to lock down anything/everything.
I prefer the Pixel 4A. It's mostly plastic so lighter, pretty cheap ($120 from Walmart online). OLED screen, so easy on battery.
Without Google services (courtesy of Graphene) battery life should be great, and it pretty much makes it a feature phone since you can lock it down so well. On my test phones, disabling Google services gives me 10-20% more battery time. Screen is the other big user (for IPS screens anyway, OLED is much kinder to battery).
Since you use Google voice, you could get a Sim card that's data only, not even text, so no worries about spam calls/text.
And it could still function as a Hotspot.
Even Lineage could provide what you're looking for, since it also comes without Google Services. Though it can run on more devices, so you can pickup any old device that meets your needs. (Except Samsung, they're a bit of a pain to flash).
GSM Arena has a great search tool for finding the phones that meet your requirements. It's really helped me over the years, since I'm kind of particular (fingerprint sensor n side o back is a requirement, as is Verizon compatibility). Though it's hard to beat the Pixel 4, for size, weight, battery capacity, durability, cost, ease of flashing.
I really think Lineage or Graphene can provide the functionality what you're looking for. And both are super easy to install on a Pixel.
Huh. Better than one of my providers that requires Zoom.
Wow. The stupid is astounding.