Children’s picture book flagged at Alabama library because author’s last name is ‘Gay’

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Children’s picture book flagged at Alabama library because author’s last name is ‘Gay’
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Madison County Public Library administrators were asked to go over a list of potentially "sexually explicit" books to be moved from the children's and young adult section to the adult section. The majority of these books were about the LGBTQ community. At least one was added to the list because the author's last name is Gay.

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Blame the borderline pornographic books that activists have been pushing on children for this response. And before you say "this never happens" go look up the book "Gender Queer" that shows people sucking dick, doing anal, etc

Blame the borderline pornographic books that activists have been pushing on children for this response.

I know, right? When will those activists finally stop pushing the bible on kids??

Lmao, have you read Gender Queer? The protagonist comes out as asexual and mainly describes sexual topics either in the context of being uncomfortable with them or in the context of body issues. Nudity isn't automatically sexual. If I were a teen and was told this book was being removed for being pornographic, I'd feel pretty ripped off!

There is literally a page that shows someone deepthroating dick. Guess i'm crazy for thinking that is sexually explicit

Show me the page. You can't because it doesn't exist.

https://data.ibtimes.sg/en/full/52824/gender-queer.jpg?w=813

top right. its uncensored in the book just couldn't find a pic from a quick google. interested to hear you response when being shown something that doesn't exist apparently

Once again you've left out critical information. Let me put this in a bulleted list.

  • The censorship is hiding an important detail: the presence of a strap on. This means that the scene does not contain, as you put it, "sucking dick".
  • The scene depicted is described in an intentionally unsexy way, as it turns out this isn't actually what the protagonist wants.
  • The entire point of showing this is that it's the catalyst for the protagonist realizing that they are asexual. While it can be argued that it is unnecessary for this to happen on page, the fact remains that this book is intended for an audience that already knows what sex is. Nobody is putting this book in elementary schools.
  • There is a big difference between sex happening and literal porn. If there wasn't, a shit ton of nature documentaries would be x-rated.
  • The scene in question is 2 panels long. This is the entirety of it. This is the equivalent of the scene in The Shining, which 1. many people miss on a first viewing, and 2. fittingly enough is also depicted in an intentionally unsexy way.

But if all you care about is surface level bullshit and not the actual content of the story, then sure. We should totally Think of the Children^TM , who totally have no idea that sex exists by the time they reach a grade level that would be carrying this graphic novel (high school, ffs!), which is absolutely a part of the curriculum and not something that they check out of the library of their own free will./s

Oh sorry, he's deepthroating a strapon that looks like a dick, instead of deepthroating a dick itself. Funny you really think that distinction matters. These are fucking children, stop trying to force feed books with gratuitous sexual content to kids. All you're doing is trying to minimize it, which I expected.

Nobody is putting this book in elementary schools.

If I could prove to you that this book was present at Elementary schools, what would you say?

Gender Queer was never intended for children. It is aimed at adults and young adults.

The NEA recommended it on a list of books for educators and some people misinterpreted this (perhaps purposely, since it acts as really nice fuel for the fear fire) as being recommended for children.

It is not, nor was it ever, a children's book.

Funny you really think that distinction matters.

Yes, context matters. If in To Kill a Mockingbird the defendant actually did it then the book would be about defending a rapist.

These are fucking children, stop trying to force feed books with gratuitous sexual content to kids.

Buddy, it's two lousy stinking panels. If that's gratuitous to you then I don't know what to tell you. Most people can see a dick shaped object for two seconds and be fine.

If I could prove to you that this book was present at Elementary schools, what would you say?

Ok, but it isn't. You realize that it isn't, right? I'm not going to entertain this hypothetical just so that you can feel like your argument holds any water. It doesn't.

Yeah, Gender Queer is definitely a little more graphic than I think the average kid below 12-13 or so really shouldn't be seeing. The illustrations on oral sex are definitely a little more than I'm comfortable with for readers who aren't knowing what they're opening up, mostly because if i had pulled this bad boy out to read on the bus going home, I'd definitely have been bullied, hard.

I think that book is important for publication, definitely place it in an area designed for teens and those very close to it. But I wouldn't call it borderline pornographic any more than I would have called Catcher in the Rye borderline racist. If I had read this growing up, it might have helped me make sense of things, but I can see why it's such a hot button topic for some and an easy target for others.

FYI, Gender Queer was written for adults and was later deemed as appropriate for high schoolers (13/14 and older) by professional reviewers. It's not typically put in libraries for younger audiences.

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Gender Queer was never intended for children. It is aimed at adults and young adults.

The NEA recommended it on a list of books for educators and some people misinterpreted this (perhaps purposely, since it acts as really nice fuel for the fear fire) as being recommended for children.

It is not, nor was it ever, a children's book.

Classic moral panic. Find a few volumes to scream about loudly enough and use that as justification for removing any book that doesn't square with your bigotry.

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