The Windows 11 problem

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The Windows 11 problem
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I have not seen anything about Microsoft accounts getting deleted for AI falsely identifying something as malicious. Windows Defender and OneDrive do scan your files for malware, yeah.

I linked sources.

Edit: so apparently people try to hide it or why the downvotes?

Those links just say that illegal content uploaded to Microsoft services might get your account suspended, which is how pretty much every online service works. There's a higher bar than "misbehavior".

That's the original video about it.Enable English subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj5WuB7v4JM

That’s a video editorializing the article that was already editorializing the Microsoft support pages. That’s just a game of telephone with everyone in the process trying to make it sound scarier than it actually is.

If you added your Microsoft account to your windows, then you use their services and therefore agree to the new SLAs, to do whatever they please. It's vague on purpose, to give them maximum freedom to do so. That they scan your uploads is nothing new.

You're just saying how most TOA's are...they're hardly ever enforced that way, just because of the publicity it would give them. And most TOA's aren't even legally binding and this is definitely something that would face litigation.

If your issue with it is the vagueness, you might as well get off the grid now. Most TOA's are written that way.

Not disagreeing with you, but doesn't Windows 11 force non-pro users to use a Microsoft account, and then pro-users can open the terminal and disable their wifi and the system that checks for wifi so they can bypass the Microsoft account and then re-enable them afterwards? Like, I don't want a Microsoft account to use my PC, personally. I have literally less than zero interest in using garbage like OneDrive and other Microsoft services out-of-the-box.

I don't know the methods myself as I haven't used them, But yeah I have heard something like that can bypass the live account requirement.

And yeah, i disabled onedrive myself because due to how old my stuff is I have a ton of stuff in the documents folder that...basically caused me issues and at one point nearly got all that stuff deleted when onedrive capped out.

But that's another story I guess. I can't say i'm using it to it's maximum ability.

No subtitles available for this video.

Besides your links are too generic, if you want to properly demonstrate your theory you will need to at least quote the relevant part and especially the parts about AI.

I don't know anymore. Maybe the author of the video is wrong and the 1000 comments as well. I personally see it on Microsoft to be more clear. They got to be more precise, else you have enough room to do whatever you please. Scanning content can always get extended to other means. First it's for a legit reason like protection children but later they extend it. Giving them options to do that, isn't good.

There are 1000s who believe in Qanon doesn't make them right

Sure, but that's a technical channel with mostly educated people. This isn't some weird believers shit.

Sources that don't actually prove anything aren't good sources....