Let it die. Creators will go elsewhere. We need to shake up the ancien regime a bit
Go where? The only companies that can afford to do unlimited video forever for everyone are the likes of Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta tried to steal VOD watchers from YouTube years ago, they failed. Amazon tried to get into VOD via Twitch, they gave up. Microsoft tried to come after Twitch with Mixer, they failed. Moreover, a lot of the things we hate about youtube like poor content moderation, the copyright system, demonetization, etc arent youtubes fault. The broken copyright system is just a result of what copyright law is, it'd probably be worse on a different site since they wouldn't have the special agreement YouTube has with major copyright holders to serve as an intermediary. Instead of content strikes, or an ad revenue claim, that youtube has the special power to do, you'd just default to DMCA takedowns for everything immediately. And yeah content moderation and demonetization is bad but Youtube never wanted to do this right? They were happily showing ads on ISIS videos, its advertisers that forced them, which is how we ended up with a system that randomly pulls ads from videos if there is a hint of something an ad agency would object too. I mean it's either this or advertisers don't advertise at all, which fucks everyone, instead of a few people.
If you love watching ads so much go watch them. That’s the same boomer mentality that keeps cable alive to this day. I don’t care, I will never watch ads
So uhhh where will content creators go, you still haven't answered the question.
Im not a content creator, why don’t you ask one?
You said creators will go elsewhere, which implies you know there are alternatives. Just wondering if you had anything in mind, or if you just kinda kicked that can down the road.
PeerTube, since if creators are large, then their videos being watched by so many people, cause lots of peers to load balance the video and not destroy the server.
EDIT: and for folks who think a donation button will suffice, you have people like this who give me serious doubt.
We got videos before YouTube, it's fine. There are plenty competitors out there.
Peertube, twitch, hell archive.org has a video platform. And there are systems like Odyssey that already pay their creators.
And are you going to pay to host the petabytes of 4K content? Or are you going to expect other people to pay that when these creators jump ship?
What kind of moron is distributing 4k content when 1080p with high bitrate is already overkill?
What 💀 1080p looks like garbage on a 4K TV.
High bit rate 1080 is actually more data than most 4k streams. Besides, I can absolutely tell the difference on my computer monitor.
Get your eyes checked.
You may want to if you can't see a difference.
Yeah I’m not paying for that shit. I’ll let others pick up the cost not even gonna lie
Ok. Just sit on Lemmy and complain, then. Very helpful.
I’m not trying to help, and who the hell ordained you to be the champion of this noble cause of being a paypig?
It came to them in a form of a Raid Shadow Legends ad, on their knees they swore to pay YouTube, but they still watch ads each Sabbath to cleanse themselves.
In the name of Pewdiepie, Mr Beast, and SSSniperwolf, Amen
Maybe it's because I am blind and so my point is a little bit different. But personally, I have never understood having much video over about 1080p, especially on a phone and possibly even 720p. Peertube and 720p would work great. Each creator could set up their own instance or pay someone to set it up for them, and if they ever blew up and got seriously big, the amount of people watching their videos would send to their peers and load balance across them so the server wasn't totally overwhelmed.
Let it die. Creators will go elsewhere. We need to shake up the ancien regime a bit
Go where? The only companies that can afford to do unlimited video forever for everyone are the likes of Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta tried to steal VOD watchers from YouTube years ago, they failed. Amazon tried to get into VOD via Twitch, they gave up. Microsoft tried to come after Twitch with Mixer, they failed. Moreover, a lot of the things we hate about youtube like poor content moderation, the copyright system, demonetization, etc arent youtubes fault. The broken copyright system is just a result of what copyright law is, it'd probably be worse on a different site since they wouldn't have the special agreement YouTube has with major copyright holders to serve as an intermediary. Instead of content strikes, or an ad revenue claim, that youtube has the special power to do, you'd just default to DMCA takedowns for everything immediately. And yeah content moderation and demonetization is bad but Youtube never wanted to do this right? They were happily showing ads on ISIS videos, its advertisers that forced them, which is how we ended up with a system that randomly pulls ads from videos if there is a hint of something an ad agency would object too. I mean it's either this or advertisers don't advertise at all, which fucks everyone, instead of a few people.
If you love watching ads so much go watch them. That’s the same boomer mentality that keeps cable alive to this day. I don’t care, I will never watch ads
So uhhh where will content creators go, you still haven't answered the question.
Im not a content creator, why don’t you ask one?
You said creators will go elsewhere, which implies you know there are alternatives. Just wondering if you had anything in mind, or if you just kinda kicked that can down the road.
PeerTube, since if creators are large, then their videos being watched by so many people, cause lots of peers to load balance the video and not destroy the server.
I love peertube as a technology, I'm not 100% sure it will be a replacement for YouTube - in addition to volunteer content moderating, this comment captures my worries about attracting content creators - basically it seems difficult to get paid.
EDIT: and for folks who think a donation button will suffice, you have people like this who give me serious doubt.
We got videos before YouTube, it's fine. There are plenty competitors out there.
Peertube, twitch, hell archive.org has a video platform. And there are systems like Odyssey that already pay their creators.
And are you going to pay to host the petabytes of 4K content? Or are you going to expect other people to pay that when these creators jump ship?
What kind of moron is distributing 4k content when 1080p with high bitrate is already overkill?
What 💀 1080p looks like garbage on a 4K TV.
High bit rate 1080 is actually more data than most 4k streams. Besides, I can absolutely tell the difference on my computer monitor.
Get your eyes checked.
You may want to if you can't see a difference.
Yeah I’m not paying for that shit. I’ll let others pick up the cost not even gonna lie
Ok. Just sit on Lemmy and complain, then. Very helpful.
I’m not trying to help, and who the hell ordained you to be the champion of this noble cause of being a paypig?
It came to them in a form of a Raid Shadow Legends ad, on their knees they swore to pay YouTube, but they still watch ads each Sabbath to cleanse themselves.
In the name of Pewdiepie, Mr Beast, and SSSniperwolf, Amen
Maybe it's because I am blind and so my point is a little bit different. But personally, I have never understood having much video over about 1080p, especially on a phone and possibly even 720p. Peertube and 720p would work great. Each creator could set up their own instance or pay someone to set it up for them, and if they ever blew up and got seriously big, the amount of people watching their videos would send to their peers and load balance across them so the server wasn't totally overwhelmed.