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Cancel culture is not a real thing so bulbasaur

I have cancelled you. It's unfortunate it had to come to this...

A hater tried to cancel you because Bulbasaur is "problematic," but I'll uncancel you because Bulbasaur is very cute and should be cherished

Of course it is. what are you talking about?

who is someone who has been cancelled?

You can't know them, when the council of awakeness performs the ritual of cancellation, the person is erased from existance, which includes everyone's memories, as if they never existed. Even the number of people who underwent this treatment is unknown, but we estimate trillions.

Several conspiracy lunatics got deplatformed. Trump literally got canceled off twitter, until his buddy Musk bought it back.
After #meToo and before his sentencing, I'm pretty sure Harvey Weinstein didn't do much movie producing either.

Influencers/personalities who don't get into illegal or seditious speech don't usually get deplatformed, so they have the option to stick around through heinous acts and subsequent harassment (e.g. the Paul brothers).

However canceling DOES work against people with, like, any semblance of humanity who can't wall off a continuous barrage of rape and death threats. Lindsay Ellis straight up closed up shop following a harassment campaign over some really stupid shit I can't even remember (she's back on Nebula now, but she's still off YouTube).

you can't say someone like trump got cancelled when he is like fighting for presidency of the largest military cult to ever exist or whatever he's up to these days.

If you want to establish cancel culture as a thing you have to

  1. show that people can be barred from publicity and financial success

and

  1. show that it is different from what happened in the past with reactions to scandals.

No true Scotsman, eh?

Johny Depp? Dude lost work. It impacted him. He was cancelled.

Kevin spacey is another one. Louis CK. These are people who had work impacted because of alleged behaviors and actions they took.

Not gonna get more nuanced with you about it. It's a real thing. You've been given plenty of examples.

Kevin Spacey, Louis CK, Chris Avellone, Johnathan Depp...

They all had work while fighting thier allegations.

They are all rich and famous, Louis ck is a self confessed sexual harasser.

All of them are still around, rich, and have a platform. Nothing that happened to them is different from past scandals.

Shit Jonny Dep is definitely a shitty abusive person and somehow everyone thinks he's a pure victim because his propaganda campaign was so effective.

Weird, what you seem to call "cancel culture", I would call "consequences for actions"

  1. I just did. Lindsay Ellis got her carreer fucked by it.
  2. Why? Just because the word changes doesn't mean the principle isn't still the same. And just because reactionaries like to call any mild backlash "cancelling" doesn't mean it isn't a thing.