The Lemmy.World Terms of Service now in effect
Hello World!
We've made some changes today, and we'd like to announce that our Code of Conduct is no longer in effect. We now have a new Terms of Service, in effect starting from today(October 19, 2023).
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The new Terms of Service can be found at https://legal.lemmy.world/
In this post our community mods and users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World. We hope to discuss and inform constructively and in good faith.
This seems to bring LW closer to Reddit. /s
But seriously, what is the point of all of this? It only seems to overcomplicate things. Now a user will have to:
In that order, or any other order? I see nothing about protesting the breach of the ToS by either the CoC or some community, or some community's mod... so which supersedes which?
How is this going to be communicated to users commenting/posting from other instances? Or is this only applicable to users registered on this instance? In which case, what is going to be applicable to federated users?
What are the user's rights?
If you want to establish this as a legal document, then you're missing at least a section.
If this is about giving as many reasons as possible to remove/ban content/users, it's all unnecessary, just say "mods can remove/ban whatever"; it's a private instance, you can do that.
If this is about having a ruleset that protects the users from arbitrary mod decisions... I see none of that in there.
Ultimately it's just "we're gonna act like how reddit admins act".
Simplified version: Dont be an asshole.
FIN
Using a free service is not a right, it's a privilege. Which can be revoked at any time for any reason. Grow up.
It seems like simply reading the post and having an understanding of how federation works would address most of the points you've made.
The remaining:
Anything that's not restricted? That's why we have rules and not an allowances list.
And if you have an issue with humans moderating, oh well, good luck.
I know perfectly well how federation works. The core of my questions have nothing to do with federation, they're about people and how they'll #### rules to death.
But since you brought it up: you may want to also consider the implications of mods from federated instances making decisions about content on LW communities.
As I said, if you want to establish this as a legal document (often called "Terms of Service")... then you may really want to check with a lawyer on that.
Maybe I wasn't clear; this isn't about me having an issue, this is about you missing a few issues. Take it or leave it, I have no stake in this.
Allowances? They're talking about guarantees.
A lemmy bill of rights? Interesting... what kind of stuff would you expect to see on such a document?
Not my idea, but let's make it a Constitution while we're at it. Dibs on the first Supreme Court seat.