Unfortunately, the only way to kick tankies out of 196 is to get 196 out of Lemmy. Because Lemmy is being developed by two tankies themselves, with a third one about to join. And because despite being defederated from hexbear and lemmygrad, lemmy.ml is still a free roam place for tankies from those two cesspool places. So, either defederate yourselves from lemmy.ml (nobody would do that), or fork lemmy into a new clean place (not impossible, but difficult to perform), or do as beehaw will do soon.
So, either defederate yourselves from lemmy.ml (nobody would do that)
I mean, if push comes to shove why not? It’s not the “main instance” anymore, it’s only got twice the users of Hexbear. Around a third of .world. I don’t think defederating would be that bad of an idea if they get too oppressive.
I feel like wanting to defederate from .ml is showing your whole ass for all to see. I get wanting to defed from hexbear and grad because they genuinely have problems that even I've personally ran up against, but ml? You just hate anything left of hilter if you have an issue with them.
The issue with .ml isn't that they're tankies, it's that they have fully open registration and are huge. The whole instance is a massive vector for abuse that makes it effectively impossible to stop determined trolls if you're federated with them.
Lemmy.ml is NOT defederated with lemmygrad.ml or hexbear.net
In fact, the lemmy.ml admins/devs are admin on lemmygrad.ml
Choose an instance that defederated with hexbear and lemmygrad and you won't see many tankies. Even if they post on Lemmy.ml you won't see it because that is how federation works.
In fact, the lemmy.ml admins/devs are admin on lemmygrad.ml
Why do you think so? Can you prove it?
It is literally the original/first Lemmy instance. Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml were on the same server with the same IP address before
Lemmy.ml is the first instance, but I don't see any evidence that lemmygrad.ml had the same IP address. Where did you get this from?
I didn't try on any lemmy instance, but while I was on Kbin, I've posted some comments on lemmy.ml (worldnews, if I remember correctly). Nothing out of the ordinary. One tankie called me a nazi (I had to change my profile photo becuase of that), and other tankie called me a loser, having myself ADHD and ASD.
Kbin.social isn't defederated with any of the tankie instances afaik. On kbin your options are limited
But on Kbin I can block communities and even instances. On Lemmy I don't have that option yet. So, when I see some random post from lemmy.ml while browsing "all", I block that community and goodbye problems.
For sure you can block communities in Lemmy. And very soon entire instances.
If you don't mind, what is beehaw doing?
Beehaw is looking for a new place to be, mostly because of the lack of modding tools (I think there is a post on that instance). But if that migration allows them to avoid tankies and other kind of fascists, that's better. Can't blame them, I was harassed by tankies as well some weeks ago.
I was harassed by tankies as well some weeks ago.
how they harassed you?
One of them called me a nazi because I had the Ukrainian flag as profile picture (like here ). And the other one called me a loser, after I pointed them out that I suffer from ADHD.
Unfortunately, the only way to kick tankies out of 196 is to get 196 out of Lemmy. Because Lemmy is being developed by two tankies themselves, with a third one about to join. And because despite being defederated from hexbear and lemmygrad, lemmy.ml is still a free roam place for tankies from those two cesspool places. So, either defederate yourselves from lemmy.ml (nobody would do that), or fork lemmy into a new clean place (not impossible, but difficult to perform), or do as beehaw will do soon.
I mean, if push comes to shove why not? It’s not the “main instance” anymore, it’s only got twice the users of Hexbear. Around a third of .world. I don’t think defederating would be that bad of an idea if they get too oppressive.
I feel like wanting to defederate from .ml is showing your whole ass for all to see. I get wanting to defed from hexbear and grad because they genuinely have problems that even I've personally ran up against, but ml? You just hate anything left of hilter if you have an issue with them.
The issue with .ml isn't that they're tankies, it's that they have fully open registration and are huge. The whole instance is a massive vector for abuse that makes it effectively impossible to stop determined trolls if you're federated with them.
Lemmy.ml is NOT defederated with lemmygrad.ml or hexbear.net
In fact, the lemmy.ml admins/devs are admin on lemmygrad.ml
Choose an instance that defederated with hexbear and lemmygrad and you won't see many tankies. Even if they post on Lemmy.ml you won't see it because that is how federation works.
Why do you think so? Can you prove it?
It is literally the original/first Lemmy instance. Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml were on the same server with the same IP address before
Lemmy.ml is the first instance, but I don't see any evidence that lemmygrad.ml had the same IP address. Where did you get this from?
I didn't try on any lemmy instance, but while I was on Kbin, I've posted some comments on lemmy.ml (worldnews, if I remember correctly). Nothing out of the ordinary. One tankie called me a nazi (I had to change my profile photo becuase of that), and other tankie called me a loser, having myself ADHD and ASD.
Kbin.social isn't defederated with any of the tankie instances afaik. On kbin your options are limited
But on Kbin I can block communities and even instances. On Lemmy I don't have that option yet. So, when I see some random post from lemmy.ml while browsing "all", I block that community and goodbye problems.
For sure you can block communities in Lemmy. And very soon entire instances.
If you don't mind, what is beehaw doing?
Beehaw is looking for a new place to be, mostly because of the lack of modding tools (I think there is a post on that instance). But if that migration allows them to avoid tankies and other kind of fascists, that's better. Can't blame them, I was harassed by tankies as well some weeks ago.
how they harassed you?
One of them called me a nazi because I had the Ukrainian flag as profile picture (like here ). And the other one called me a loser, after I pointed them out that I suffer from ADHD.
thanks :)
How forking will help in any way?