In all seriousness, if the People’s business isn’t being conducted, how can they possibly be getting paid or getting benefits?
I said it in another post that Emmer may have been a decent compromise for Dems to extend an olive branch. I’m not saying they’re at fault at all, just that he seemed reasonable.
For the hundredth time- it's not on Democrats to unfuck Republicans. If they want to actually be adults they can come to Democrats and offer up their own "olive branch."
Let the fuckers stew in their own shit and maybe some people will finally wake the fuck up that Republicans aren't at all fit to manage a Wendy's, let alone govern the country.
I'd say the Democrats should extend an olive branch at the price of heavy concessions, or try to get a few Republicans to vote for Jeffries. Unfortunately, neither concessions or getting someone to cross the aisle will happen, so...guess we're back to square one.
EDIT: Why the downvotes? Literally, I said the Republicans wouldn't go for something that is workable and potentially advantageous to the Democrats.
The Republicans are completely untrustworthy. The party has built itself on the idea of "owning the libs" which has killed all compromises.
The only olive branch the Dems should offer is "we'll keep things functioning if you abstain from the next speaker vote". They don't need anything else. The majority of Dems aren't the socialist communists Republicans like to fearmonger over
That's exactly my point. Their olive branch should come with rule changes, committee re-shufflings, etc. to get the Democrats in a more powerful, better position. But like you said, the Republicans won't go for that because they're intransigent, so...back to square one.
You're getting downvotes for suggesting the Democrats should be the ones reaching out. No. That's on the Republicans. The most we should be doing is saying "we're voting for our choice. If you want to end the madness, vote with us." That's it.
I said it in another post that Emmer may have been a decent compromise for Dems to extend an olive branch.
Emmer withdrew without ever having a vote by the full house. He chose to withdraw because he couldn’t convince 217 republicans to support him in the private, republican-only votes. At no point did he seek support from democrats, or even give them a chance to vote for him. Republicans are clearly not interested in any olive branches from democrats.
Fair point. If they’re bent on pushing it through along party lines, I can’t imagine a single nominee that’ll satisfy the fringe.
I think it's just always been party line. Bipartisanship is mostly dead these days too so it's a tough time.
Eventually we are going to be talking about the democrats bailing them out for nothing because we are about to run out of funding for the government among other things.
This is the republican agenda. Get nothing done, blade democrats.
I don't think blaming Democrats will work when they can't get enough votes from their own party to even start the process of letting the Democrats vote
You underestimate the ignorance of Republican voters.
You've not been paying attention to right-wing media. Most pundits are PISSED at the Republicans and aren't shy expressing it. This is something that's pierced the right wing media bubble.
Now, whether or not that will stop them from voting R is a different story. However, the "this is the Democrats problem" message is not flying.
Fox "news" has this story on the front page of the main website (I'm extremely surprised) but I can't find it on the politics page. I need a shower now.
I try not to, but they continue to find ways to surprise me. You may be right.
In all seriousness, if the People’s business isn’t being conducted, how can they possibly be getting paid or getting benefits?
I said it in another post that Emmer may have been a decent compromise for Dems to extend an olive branch. I’m not saying they’re at fault at all, just that he seemed reasonable.
For the hundredth time- it's not on Democrats to unfuck Republicans. If they want to actually be adults they can come to Democrats and offer up their own "olive branch."
Let the fuckers stew in their own shit and maybe some people will finally wake the fuck up that Republicans aren't at all fit to manage a Wendy's, let alone govern the country.
I'd say the Democrats should extend an olive branch at the price of heavy concessions, or try to get a few Republicans to vote for Jeffries. Unfortunately, neither concessions or getting someone to cross the aisle will happen, so...guess we're back to square one.
EDIT: Why the downvotes? Literally, I said the Republicans wouldn't go for something that is workable and potentially advantageous to the Democrats.
The Republicans are completely untrustworthy. The party has built itself on the idea of "owning the libs" which has killed all compromises.
The only olive branch the Dems should offer is "we'll keep things functioning if you abstain from the next speaker vote". They don't need anything else. The majority of Dems aren't the socialist communists Republicans like to fearmonger over
That's exactly my point. Their olive branch should come with rule changes, committee re-shufflings, etc. to get the Democrats in a more powerful, better position. But like you said, the Republicans won't go for that because they're intransigent, so...back to square one.
You're getting downvotes for suggesting the Democrats should be the ones reaching out. No. That's on the Republicans. The most we should be doing is saying "we're voting for our choice. If you want to end the madness, vote with us." That's it.
Emmer withdrew without ever having a vote by the full house. He chose to withdraw because he couldn’t convince 217 republicans to support him in the private, republican-only votes. At no point did he seek support from democrats, or even give them a chance to vote for him. Republicans are clearly not interested in any olive branches from democrats.
Fair point. If they’re bent on pushing it through along party lines, I can’t imagine a single nominee that’ll satisfy the fringe.
I think it's just always been party line. Bipartisanship is mostly dead these days too so it's a tough time.
Eventually we are going to be talking about the democrats bailing them out for nothing because we are about to run out of funding for the government among other things.
This is the republican agenda. Get nothing done, blade democrats.
I don't think blaming Democrats will work when they can't get enough votes from their own party to even start the process of letting the Democrats vote
You underestimate the ignorance of Republican voters.
You've not been paying attention to right-wing media. Most pundits are PISSED at the Republicans and aren't shy expressing it. This is something that's pierced the right wing media bubble.
Now, whether or not that will stop them from voting R is a different story. However, the "this is the Democrats problem" message is not flying.
Fox "news" has this story on the front page of the main website (I'm extremely surprised) but I can't find it on the politics page. I need a shower now.
I try not to, but they continue to find ways to surprise me. You may be right.