The good guys aren't supposed to shoot the hostages.
Right, Israel should just roll over an accept all death and destructing of their own people just because the Hamas doesn't give a fuck about theirs?
They can defend themselves WITHOUT SHOOTING THE HOSTAGES!
Please explain how? Sit there and eat rockets all day?
The same way the police deal with people that have taken hostages. Or the same way the US military deals with them. BY NOT KILLING THE HOSTAGES.
You are putting an awful lot of effort into purposefully not understanding this concept.
The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists as a policy. the police isn't dealing with people hell bent on murdering them, their family, and all their friends.
The fact that you think your scenarios are related shows you don't understand the situation.
The US negotiates with terrorists every single day. That's just a political slogan. In reality you do want to talk with everyone involved, even if you're planning on betraying and murdering them at the end anyway. The US has negotiated with almost every single terrorist organization in existence worldwide. That's like, the main job of the CIA when they're not too busy smuggling drugs.
They don't negotiate with terrorists, but they also don't purposefully shoot their hostages either, now do they?
It's called counter insurgency. But it involves thinking about the civilian population as real human beings with rights.
Definitely not by murdering and displace people.
Okay, so explain how then.
Lmao they should just stop colonising? And end apartheid? Like how hard is it to understand? A colonised people will keep fighting until they are dead.
Don't need to.
Use OPIR, COMINT, HUMINT, OSINT, GEOINT and drone imagery alongside sleeper cell infiltrators alongside PRISM and the NSA database to locate the targets, then use one of the following:
Aboveground: Sniper from two miles out, on a hill somewhere.
Aboveground in a bunker: Precision guided bunker-buster munition with a shaped charge to open the door, and then secondary charge to kill the target and minimize casualties
Belowground: noxious gas to fill the tunnels and drive out anyone without a mask, armed unmanned ground vehicles to scout ahead with a swarm of drones. SEAL follows behind. Flashbang the room, use night vision to locate and then neutralize hostiles while attempting to minimize loss of hostages and noncombatants.
Which video game did you get that all out of?
Isntreal boasts having one of the strongest militaries in the region if not in the world until it doesn't benefit its ethnical cleansing plan and then plays dumb.
You know what a strong military does? avoids going in on suicide missions.
It's not a suicide mission if you use all the means available to already have the information you need for the mission available. It's how we got Bin Laden and tossed his dead body in the ocean. It's how we got Saddam. It's how we put a metal shard through Solemani. It's how we tapped Russian underwater cables for years without them even suspecting it.
Israeli Intel: lots of terrorists popping out of random tunnels everywhere. Civilian meat shields present at all points.
Now tell me how it makes such missions any safer knowing that? The situations you described is nothing like the urban warfare in Gaza.
If that's all the intel you think is showing up on SIPR and JWICS then I have beachfront property to sell you in Kansas.
I'm a submariner and have chats with SEALs. What do you do for a living?
Shill on Lemmy
Nobody said that but you
No one said that. Why do you make it sound like this is the only other option?
The good guys aren't supposed to shoot the hostages.
Right, Israel should just roll over an accept all death and destructing of their own people just because the Hamas doesn't give a fuck about theirs?
They can defend themselves WITHOUT SHOOTING THE HOSTAGES!
Please explain how? Sit there and eat rockets all day?
The same way the police deal with people that have taken hostages. Or the same way the US military deals with them. BY NOT KILLING THE HOSTAGES.
You are putting an awful lot of effort into purposefully not understanding this concept.
The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists as a policy. the police isn't dealing with people hell bent on murdering them, their family, and all their friends.
The fact that you think your scenarios are related shows you don't understand the situation.
The US negotiates with terrorists every single day. That's just a political slogan. In reality you do want to talk with everyone involved, even if you're planning on betraying and murdering them at the end anyway. The US has negotiated with almost every single terrorist organization in existence worldwide. That's like, the main job of the CIA when they're not too busy smuggling drugs.
They don't negotiate with terrorists, but they also don't purposefully shoot their hostages either, now do they?
It's called counter insurgency. But it involves thinking about the civilian population as real human beings with rights.
Definitely not by murdering and displace people.
Okay, so explain how then.
Lmao they should just stop colonising? And end apartheid? Like how hard is it to understand? A colonised people will keep fighting until they are dead.
Don't need to.
Use OPIR, COMINT, HUMINT, OSINT, GEOINT and drone imagery alongside sleeper cell infiltrators alongside PRISM and the NSA database to locate the targets, then use one of the following:
Which video game did you get that all out of?
Isntreal boasts having one of the strongest militaries in the region if not in the world until it doesn't benefit its ethnical cleansing plan and then plays dumb.
You know what a strong military does? avoids going in on suicide missions.
It's not a suicide mission if you use all the means available to already have the information you need for the mission available. It's how we got Bin Laden and tossed his dead body in the ocean. It's how we got Saddam. It's how we put a metal shard through Solemani. It's how we tapped Russian underwater cables for years without them even suspecting it.
Israeli Intel: lots of terrorists popping out of random tunnels everywhere. Civilian meat shields present at all points.
Now tell me how it makes such missions any safer knowing that? The situations you described is nothing like the urban warfare in Gaza.
If that's all the intel you think is showing up on SIPR and JWICS then I have beachfront property to sell you in Kansas.
I'm a submariner and have chats with SEALs. What do you do for a living?
Shill on Lemmy
Nobody said that but you
No one said that. Why do you make it sound like this is the only other option?