‘Nobody’s hands are clean’: Obama urges reflection amid Israel-Hamas conflict
politico.com
Former President Barack Obama cautioned against ignoring the complexities of the Israel-Hamas war, warning that “all of us are complicit.”
“If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth. And you then have to admit nobody’s hands are clean, that all of us are complicit to some degree,” he said in an excerpted interview with Pod Save America released Saturday.
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Have you considered that Gaza wouldn't have terrorist groups if the people had basic human rights?
Well, given that the reason Gaza is occupied is because of the terrorist groups, I think order of operations is somewhat disputed.
This is 70 years of tit for tat. My point is that both parties here are wrong.
There is no good or bad guy, just two bad guys.
The reason why Gaza is colonized is because Palestinians didn't want to split their land with a European settler colonialists. They resisted Israeli domination and lost.
I’m starting to think it’s all bad guys everywhere.
if you are looking at a genocide and taking the idiots position of 'but my both sides bad' you don't deserve to have an opinion
fuck off to your couch you fucking bitch
That's incorrect. The existence of the terrorist groups are the result of Resolution 181 and the ensuing war that established the modern day boundaries of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza.
The continued support for these terrorists groups has been bolstered in part by the heavy-handed tactics of Israel and the animosity between Israel and regional powers, but the original sin here was the British (and much of the western world) cowtowing to Zionists to create a theoretical two-state solution from scratch and overlaying it on an existing mixed-background area known as Palestine.
There are a lot of movie parts here, but the simple enmity between hardline Muslims and hardline Jews predates pretty much everyone currently alive on this planet.
Resolution 181 is a red herring.
There were already Arab vs. Zionist clashes before it, and they would have continued with or without a resolution that nobody was following. Only thing the British can be seen at fault for, is leaving without having enforced 181... which meant leaving Israel alone to fight a war against a coordinated attack from multiple Arab countries at once. Not precisely "cowtowing" to Israel.
Modern terrorist groups are the result of Israel going against its own Declaration of Independence where it promised to follow 181, and instead trying to get exclusive control of the whole territory... while Palestinians are getting pummeled, but still also refuse to consider a two-state solution, leaving them in an underdog position where all they can do is some terrorist attacks and wait to get destroyed.
oh shut the fuck up you fascist liar
It's good to see that reddit-level discourse has arrived.