‘Nobody’s hands are clean’: Obama urges reflection amid Israel-Hamas conflict

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‘Nobody’s hands are clean’: Obama urges reflection amid Israel-Hamas conflict
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Former President Barack Obama cautioned against ignoring the complexities of the Israel-Hamas war, warning that “all of us are complicit.”

“If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth. And you then have to admit nobody’s hands are clean, that all of us are complicit to some degree,” he said in an excerpted interview with Pod Save America released Saturday.

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Where did I justify anything? I'm pointing out your ignorance is all.

Proportional in the context you're using it doesn't mean what you think it does.

You're probably one of those people who says things like genocide when the population has doubled since 1950, or apartheid when Arabs serve in the IDF, sit as judges in the courts and hold seats in the parliament.

Tensions are high, spreading disinformation like you are doing is a problem that needs to be called out. Notice I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt assuming you're just ignorant and not doing this intentionally.

None of what I've said justifies the actions of anyone either. I'm simply pointing out that accuracy is important and you made a mistake.

You know that they're are streets in Jerusalem that Palestinians are not even allowed to walk down, right? It's an apartheid state.

Are those Palestinians is really citizens? There are 2 million Arab Israelis who have access to Israeli society. There are 2 million gazans who aren't Israeli citizens who don't want to be Israeli citizens. Therefore, they do not have the same rights as Israeli citizens.

They don't want to be Israeli because the Israel's are an illegal occupying force that's taking over their land.

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Bro, you're cherry picking your information and spreading colonial propaganda.

What is being cherry picked in @S_204's post?

Proportional in the context you're using it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Proportionality is important in international law which is one of the reasons that the UN keeps calling out Israel for war crimes. Another cool fact in international law is that the threat to national security has to be imminent to strike into another country. They can't just bomb in retaliation and say they are preventing future attacks.

You're probably one of those people who says things like genocide when the population has doubled since 1950, or apartheid when Arabs serve in the IDF, sit as judges in the courts and hold seats in the parliament.

Big Zionist misinformation here, population numbers going up can not disqualify acts from being genocidal. Also black people participated in South African society in the same way but no one would say SA wasn't an apartheid state because a minority existed in the army or parliament.

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