'No Possibility' of Gaza Cease-Fire, Biden Says as 500+ Former Staffers Demand One

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'No Possibility' of Gaza Cease-Fire, Biden Says as 500+ Former Staffers Demand One
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"As the president of the United States, you have power to change the course of history, and the responsibility to save lives right now," the staffers wrote.

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Sorry to disappoint you, but if the president was Trump or any other Republican your government would have been even firmer behind Israel, so it is a choice between a bad and a worse president.

Hell we would probably have deployed troops to Gaza and also to stand by in case of actions from Iran, Egypt, Lebanon, or Syria.

Whataboutism.

Nope. Cold hard truth to your fucking pathetic attempt at putting Netty's bloodthirst on Biden. You are beyond pathetic and frankly beyond stupid.

You're in denial.

So you think Trump would have been a better choice in this situation?

Leninists, don't think. It's anathema to them. That's how we get here. More anti west than anything else. Including socialist. Not that leninists were ever socialists.

Oh, is that what they are?

Why can’t they just stay in hexbear or lemmygrad with the rest of them? Much easier to filter

Well it's an assumption based on the originating TLD. But it's a safe assumption. Leninists/tankies will hypocritically condemn everything about America. And yet defend the exact same actions from other countries. Simply because they are not perceived as being West or western. Or having aided the West. So if you go there looking for logic, you're going to have a bad time. Unless you know that the hypocrisy is the core of their ideology.

No, I'm not a Leninist.

And, no, I don't think it would be any better under Trump but I'm not lying to myself that voting for Biden somehow saved democracy and thus the world. Genocide Joe and Friends has been a spineless shit domestically which has only enabled the Far Right in the US and he just showed where he stands internationally, which is no different from the Far Right. Just want to remind people this is what they voted for when they chose to rabidly support Biden.

I’m not lying to myself that voting for Biden somehow saved democracy and thus the world

Okay??? Nobody here is saying that, so this is pure strawman

just want to remind people this is what they voted for when they chose to rabidly support Biden

Except it’s not… Electing a candidate doesn’t automatically make people responsible for every action that candidate takes once they’re in office. And, once again, it was either Biden or Trump. We picked the best option we had.

If you’re forced to choose between a pile of shit and a pile of shit with febreeze, you’re gonna pick the latter option. Doesn’t mean you’re happy with it, and it doesn’t suddenly make you responsible when the febreeze runs out and the shit starts to stink.

Speaking of shit, stop diving in your ass to find some. You’re spewing enough already.

Okay??? Nobody here is saying that, so this is pure strawman

I don't blame you if you haven't read all the replies I got here because they are all inane, maniacal bloodthirsty American fascist babbling and a complete waste of time but basically everyone has said voting for Biden was necessary to save the country, democracy, stop worse genocide, protect the world, so on and so forth because Trump would destroy everything. Even you are implying it in the next part which I quote. So, no, it's not an imagined strawman and people are actually saying that here.

Except it’s not… Electing a candidate doesn’t automatically make people responsible for every action that candidate takes once they’re in office. And, once again, it was either Biden or Trump. We picked the best option we had.

Voting for and electing a candidate gives them a mandate. That's literally how elections work and their purpose. You are literally responsible for putting that person in power and for what they do with that power because you helped put them there. And anyone voting for Biden again after everything that is happening only solidifies their position as a fascist supporter.

If you’re forced to choose between a pile of shit and a pile of shit with febreeze, you’re gonna pick the latter option. Doesn’t mean you’re happy with it, and it doesn’t suddenly make you responsible when the febreeze runs out and the shit starts to stink.

It doesn't seem like you love this country very much. You describe it in such a pessimistic way. Forced to choose between shit you're not happy with that will support or commit genocide no matter what, huh? Does that sound like a functional democracy to you? Fact is that everyone is effected by the President but no one is forced to vote and there are other things people can do to try to build an alternative. You chose to vote to just shovel pleasant smelling shit in your mouth. Why do you think it's worth shoveling shit in your mouth for a system you describe as forcing you to choose between such options?

Speaking of shit, stop diving in your ass to find some. You’re spewing enough already.

My bad, I thought you'd appreciate it. You're the one here who loves to have nice smelling shit in their mouth, not me.

I don't blame you if you haven't read all the replies I got here because they are all inane, maniacal bloodthirsty American fascist babbling

You realize we can read the replies here right? You're either lying, and don't realize we can all read. Or you're living in your own little delusional world.

“If both options are bad, just don’t vote :D”

What an absolutely braindead take

If that's all you took away, you are the braindead one.

Whatever you say, chief.

I tend not to take the opinions of delusionists seriously