Israel-Gaza live news: Firing outside Gaza hospitals, with patients and staff trapped inside - BBC News

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Israel-Gaza live news: Firing outside Gaza hospitals, with patients and staff trapped inside - BBC News
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The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has now weighed in on the hospital situation in northern Gaza.

In a statement, it warned that hospitals in the Palestinian enclave have "reached a point of no return", risking the lives of thousands of people.

The ICRC said its staff attempting to deliver medical supplies had witnessed "horrendous" scenes, and described the destruction as "unbearable".

It also highlighted attacks on children's hospitals, including Al-Rantisi, which we've been reporting on today, saying they had "not been spared from violence."

The humanitarian organisation, which is the guardian of the Geneva Conventions, repeated its demand that hospitals and healthcare workers, under international law, must be protected.

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there's no "applicable life experience" that justifies genocide.

If it really was genocide, why has the population of Gaza increased by 100% in the last decade? Shouldn't that number go down?

Since the breakout of the war, it’s gone down by over 10,000, 40% have been innocent women and children.

Couldn't answer the question. War is war, and innocents die, but 5hat doesn't make it genocide.

I literally answered— unless you ignore the killings of innocent women and children,, and it also meets several of the conditions of the UN’s definition of genocide.

No you didn't. You deflected and didn't answer the question. You can try again. If genocide, how has Palestinian population grown by 100%?

Once again: since the outbreak of the war, the population has decreased by over 10,000, 40% of which are innocent women and children, and it also meets several of the conditions of the UN’s definition of genocide.

Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t mean I didn’t give you one.

But that isn't genocide.

Genocide is the "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group". People die in war. Sad fact. But, that doesn't mean it meets the criteria of genocide.

Only if you ignore the rest of the conditions in the definition:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

a. Killing members of the group;

b. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

d. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Sorry, but everybody is a member of a group. Since that is your definition is used that for the rest of your criteria, this doesn't make much sense.

It’s not my definition, the the UN’s definition— and it makes sense when you don’t ignore the facts, such as the deaths of innocent women and children, which, btw, also make it a war crime.

The UN can't even say that the Hamas massacre was wrong. China and Russia voted no, but, go ahead and use them if it suits your purpose. It would never make it through criminal court and you dilute a very important word.

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It is.

It is exactly genocide, intent isn't a requirement, it's an enhancement.

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Because children without parents fuck a lot. Go figure.

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