Federation is pretty cool

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I noticed my feed on Lemmy was pretty dry today, even for Lemmy. Took me a while to realize lemmy.ml has been going up and down all morning, and isn't federating new posts.

But, since this is all still federated, I can still create and read posts on other instances while I wait. Even this one! Any other service would just be unavailable completely right now.

I do miss the larger communities on lemmy.ml - asklemmy, memes, and I really wanted to watch the reddit fallout on /c/reddit. Maybe I'll look around for some good replacements for those. Open to suggestions!

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Can someone explain to me what is the link between Mastodon and Lemmy? From the Wikipedia chart, it looks like ActivityPub links them together in some fashion; I just don't get how.

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@pankkake @ubergeek77 I'll actually use this as a an opportunity to test something - I copied your comment's link into mastodon and am replying to it with my mastodon account. I can see the thread in mastodon, and in theory, this reply should show up properly in Lemmy too.

It looks no different than any of the other comments to me. Though I haven't been here for even a day, so... :))

Yeah so it seems to work! Pretty cool that I can do that.

Do you have any idea how upvotes/downvotes get mapped to boosts and vice versa? I "followed" a couple of lemmy subs and I can see that they are boosting certain comments on posts in my mastodon feed.

In theory, Lemmy and Mastodon are compatible with one another, as they both use ActivityPub.

In practice:

Mastodon users can only see Lemmy posts as Boosts ("retweets"), and from what I hear, it's fairly annoying and not a good experience

Lemmy users can't see anything on Mastodon at all, Lemmy doesn't have a way to federate with Mastodon instances yet.

This is the first time Lemmy has seen this many users ever, so I'm confident both of these issues will be fixed sooner or later. When they are, you'll be able to see Lemmy posts on Mastodon as if they were posts ("tweets"), and you'll be able to see Mastodon posts on Lemmy as some kind of post (not sure if the format has been decided yet).

Just to clarify, Mastodon users can already make posts to Lemmy communities, just not the other way around yet.

Definitely agree it's not a good experience yet though.

It'll be great when fediverse will become interconnected open ecosystem

I'm really interested in the idea of these different kinds of websites being interoperable because of ActivityPub. Like the different websites are basically different frontends for people who prefer link aggregators or micro-blogs or other kinds of websites. It's a really cool idea!

Okay, so it's not really implemented yet. Can't wait until federation is more profoundly implemented then!

Thanks

@ubergeek77 @pankkake you can comment and make lemmy posts from Mastodon and others. I'm on Friendica for example and made this comment from my Friendica profile.

I would like to add to your picture yggdrasil and matrix based messengers, as this will help infrastructure to be more robust and expand

It's all a little arbitrary. When you create a new service (like Lemmy, or Mastodon), you can have them link with anything, in any fashion you like. The defaults are mostly sensible.

For example, I've just made a mastodon post asking /r/casual a question. Once that synchronizes across, you'll see the topic over there.