Also that up and down votes are not tallied on user profiles. One of the issues with reddit is that if your point of view is unpopular, you cant discuss it on subs that require X amount of karma. Eventually you will be downvoted into being unable to reply. Here, conversation is more open and accounts dont carry a scarlet letter.
Pretty sure the downvote count has a limited effect on total karma. It was to counter downvote brigade from silencing people as you said.
This also seems to have the effect of people getting less salty at being down voted, on reddit I noticed the trend of people verbally expressing salt at even a single down vote editing their whole comment to go "and to the brainlet sheeple soyjack who down voted me I'd like you to know yada yada"
Here I notice less people throwing a verbal tantrum over the idea not everyone likes their opinion. Whenever I get the occasional down vote barrage at a spicy opinion I think "ah well can't win em all, guess maybe my opinion might be a little shit" not amend my post with "HOW FUCKING DARE YOU YOU FUCKING SUBHUMAN TROGLODYTES"
The downvotes are actually nice to see if you can still see upvotes.
On Reddit if a post goes to -50 I just delete it to silence the mob.
On Lemmy if I see +100/-150 I know it drove debate instead of just pissing people off.
I would consider that a downside tbh
Unfortunately, your score is too low to have that opinion.
I feel like it makes the conversation feel less hive-mindy as people arnt hunting for upvotes, they just say stuff (for better or worse).
I had a ton of karma by just saying stuff. I never even tried having popular opinions or baiting for upvotes.
I feel the opposite. Still all but one opinion gets drowned out. It's just that now the opinion that survives is the one that screams the loudest rather than the mainstream one
I still remember how annoyed I was when reddit disabled that. It was a useful data point, especially in hobby communities or other places where it can be difficult for newbies to judge the quality of advice/answers they're receiving so I was thrilled to see it here on Lemmy. Going by upvotes alone is not always showing you an accurate picture of a community's reaction to a comment.
It's why I'm still furious about YouTube removing the dislike count. That single decision has probably led to lots more people getting scammed--and YouTube not getting my premium dollars I would've otherwise gave.
And the ability to turn off scores entirely! I run it that way most of the time. A post can have thousands of up/down votes but I can't tell and it keeps it from infuencing how I'll vote.
It was a feature I wanted to experiment with on reddit but couldn't
Separate numbers for upvotes and downvotes.
Also that up and down votes are not tallied on user profiles. One of the issues with reddit is that if your point of view is unpopular, you cant discuss it on subs that require X amount of karma. Eventually you will be downvoted into being unable to reply. Here, conversation is more open and accounts dont carry a scarlet letter.
Pretty sure the downvote count has a limited effect on total karma. It was to counter downvote brigade from silencing people as you said.
This also seems to have the effect of people getting less salty at being down voted, on reddit I noticed the trend of people verbally expressing salt at even a single down vote editing their whole comment to go "and to the brainlet sheeple soyjack who down voted me I'd like you to know yada yada"
Here I notice less people throwing a verbal tantrum over the idea not everyone likes their opinion. Whenever I get the occasional down vote barrage at a spicy opinion I think "ah well can't win em all, guess maybe my opinion might be a little shit" not amend my post with "HOW FUCKING DARE YOU YOU FUCKING SUBHUMAN TROGLODYTES"
The downvotes are actually nice to see if you can still see upvotes.
On Reddit if a post goes to -50 I just delete it to silence the mob.
On Lemmy if I see +100/-150 I know it drove debate instead of just pissing people off.
I would consider that a downside tbh
Unfortunately, your score is too low to have that opinion.
I feel like it makes the conversation feel less hive-mindy as people arnt hunting for upvotes, they just say stuff (for better or worse).
I had a ton of karma by just saying stuff. I never even tried having popular opinions or baiting for upvotes.
I feel the opposite. Still all but one opinion gets drowned out. It's just that now the opinion that survives is the one that screams the loudest rather than the mainstream one
I still remember how annoyed I was when reddit disabled that. It was a useful data point, especially in hobby communities or other places where it can be difficult for newbies to judge the quality of advice/answers they're receiving so I was thrilled to see it here on Lemmy. Going by upvotes alone is not always showing you an accurate picture of a community's reaction to a comment.
It's why I'm still furious about YouTube removing the dislike count. That single decision has probably led to lots more people getting scammed--and YouTube not getting my premium dollars I would've otherwise gave.
And the ability to turn off scores entirely! I run it that way most of the time. A post can have thousands of up/down votes but I can't tell and it keeps it from infuencing how I'll vote.
It was a feature I wanted to experiment with on reddit but couldn't