If google is doing this, they have a much better way to track them. Maybe fingerprints or something called evercookies. Which is harder to protect against.
The good thing is there are some software and browsers who are tackling this issues.
I feel fuckin dirty even reading that last paragraph. It's so detached from any sane reality.
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I thought privacy as per Google meant that it will trade your data with everyone interested, just will not show them your name/phone number/address (which also quite conveniently makes Google the single point of contact with you and allows to charge more)
Browser fingerprinting is nasty and easy. There are ways to push back but it's still awful.
I believe that firefox is one if the few who has at least some sort of protection against it. But you should always use different browser profiles for anything you do online at least on computer and especially if you use vpn.
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This is also a good and better idea, thank you for pointing that out.
I know people are passionate about their love / hated of Brave, but it along with LibreWolf (and Firefox) all offer strong fingerprinting protection out of the box. With Firefox, just make sure you add uBlock Origin.
Never tried LibreWolf yet, but i will. Thank you.
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Very nice, thanks for sharing this.
I believe that firefox is one if the few who has at least some sort of protection against it.
Pretty much everything that's not Chrome does.
Wait Firefox sends fingerprint info?
Why is there not an open source browser that doesn’t send this shit?
Firefox does not "send" it, fingerprinting is done by tagging your hardware configuration from various values and create a unique key from that - independent of being logged in or any cookies - which can be used to track you. Things like browser & device user agent, browser window size, feature support (to determine browser version), etc. All of which are passively gathered by anything you could send a request to. There are ways to reduce this that Firefox and others do (such as reducing unique values in user agent, etc) but they're not opting in to some privacy invading reporting mechanism.
But the “various values” are sent, like you mention user agent, etc. I wonder if it makes sense to have a browser that doesn’t send all of that.
That's the tricky part. If you just don't send anything then they'll use THAT information to profile you, because no one else is doing that.
Also it can cause the page not to load properly.
So what most browsers do is spoof the information such that every user of that browser is sending the same information, when possible, regardless of whether it's accurate.
Wait Firefox sends fingerprint info?
Ehhh there's really no such thing as "fingerprinting info". Your browser sends info about your PC to every webpage you visit so the page can load properly. Some of them just send more info than others, which makes it easier to fingerprint you.
Check out deviceinfo.me to see what kind of info your browser is sending.
Yeah they analyze your browser history and then generate labels of things you’re presumably interested in and then share it with any website that asks. Privacy friendly alright.
If google is doing this, they have a much better way to track them.
They do. It's the new "Ad Privacy" features built into Chrome that tracks every webpage you visited (locally) and then sends your profile out to advertisers when you visit a page.
If google is doing this, they have a much better way to track them. Maybe fingerprints or something called evercookies. Which is harder to protect against.
The good thing is there are some software and browsers who are tackling this issues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_fingerprinting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evercookie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_fingerprinting
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I feel fuckin dirty even reading that last paragraph. It's so detached from any sane reality.
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I thought privacy as per Google meant that it will trade your data with everyone interested, just will not show them your name/phone number/address (which also quite conveniently makes Google the single point of contact with you and allows to charge more)
Browser fingerprinting is nasty and easy. There are ways to push back but it's still awful.
I believe that firefox is one if the few who has at least some sort of protection against it. But you should always use different browser profiles for anything you do online at least on computer and especially if you use vpn.
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This is also a good and better idea, thank you for pointing that out.
I know people are passionate about their love / hated of Brave, but it along with LibreWolf (and Firefox) all offer strong fingerprinting protection out of the box. With Firefox, just make sure you add uBlock Origin.
Never tried LibreWolf yet, but i will. Thank you.
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Very nice, thanks for sharing this.
Pretty much everything that's not Chrome does.
Wait Firefox sends fingerprint info?
Why is there not an open source browser that doesn’t send this shit?
Firefox does not "send" it, fingerprinting is done by tagging your hardware configuration from various values and create a unique key from that - independent of being logged in or any cookies - which can be used to track you. Things like browser & device user agent, browser window size, feature support (to determine browser version), etc. All of which are passively gathered by anything you could send a request to. There are ways to reduce this that Firefox and others do (such as reducing unique values in user agent, etc) but they're not opting in to some privacy invading reporting mechanism.
But the “various values” are sent, like you mention user agent, etc. I wonder if it makes sense to have a browser that doesn’t send all of that.
That's the tricky part. If you just don't send anything then they'll use THAT information to profile you, because no one else is doing that.
Also it can cause the page not to load properly.
So what most browsers do is spoof the information such that every user of that browser is sending the same information, when possible, regardless of whether it's accurate.
Ehhh there's really no such thing as "fingerprinting info". Your browser sends info about your PC to every webpage you visit so the page can load properly. Some of them just send more info than others, which makes it easier to fingerprint you.
Check out deviceinfo.me to see what kind of info your browser is sending.
Yeah they analyze your browser history and then generate labels of things you’re presumably interested in and then share it with any website that asks. Privacy friendly alright.
They do. It's the new "Ad Privacy" features built into Chrome that tracks every webpage you visited (locally) and then sends your profile out to advertisers when you visit a page.