However it was designed, it shouldn't be allowed to be abused by rich fucks not giving up their millionaire lifestyle while continuing to rack up additional debt/judgements. You know these assholes are proponents of limiting what people can use welfare for (no steak or other "luxury" food styled arguments). Perhaps he should be limited to what a person on welfare is able to afford? You want to continue to pull in an income for "speeches" or whatever bullshit these grifters do for money? All but the bare minimum get frozen by the court until judgements are settled.
I don't disagree with you.
Just describing the existing system.
This is becoming a running thing for me on Kbin. Describing the system and facing people who are angry about the system.
I don't endorse it. I think it is bullshit. But it is what it is until we figure out how to make them fix it.
You'll have to specify you don't support it when describing it in a way that can be confused as a defense for it if you really want to avoid it. Saying, "nah it doesn't work like that." is very, very easy to take as an adversarial statement.
It doesn't imply defense, but it can come across as a defensive posture. Poe's Law kinda' sucks to deal with. It's one of many reasons good speech writers are kept around. It's not just about having correct English or making logically correct statements.
They were being neither parodic nor sarcastic so Poe’s law really doesn’t apply.
I also disagree that they have to specify they don’t support it. The comment is a statement of fact, a readers assumptions about the stance of the writer speaks to the readers bias, not the writers.
Yes, notice how I said, "...if you want to avoid it."
It wasn't an appeal for making correct statements. It was an appeal to hedge communication, which is always intelligent to do with a general audience. Most people do not think like a computer. You HAVE to communicate with that in mind to effectively communicate.
Yes, it's a problem with stupid people, but if you want stupid people to understand you, you better get used to it.
shoots the messenger
I think you are falling into the social media trap that every comment has to be a back and forth, or a disagreement. When you describe the existing system, if someone disagrees with it, it's not a disagreement with you. When you let that go and realize you don't need to reply, it's a weight lifted.
Keep informing and more people learn.
That's actually really good advice.
Cheers.
No it's not.
Exactly. You shouldn't come out of bankruptcy homeless, but you should absolutely be stripped of all but your smallest house and all trusts in your name.
Your smallest house? How about sell everything and start renting an apartment like every working person?
You understand that you could sentence Guliani, the world famous Mayor of New York during 9/11 to walk naked into the Antarctic tundra and he will be scooped up and pampered even harder for it.
By Maga. By Russia. By the fascist cops who justify their blue line culture by the legitimacy of post 9/11 "support the troops, thank the first responders" horse shit we showered them with for 20 years.
He should be in a cell.
Put them in cells.
However luxurious they can make that cell (less wifi), the only thing we can do with these fascists is to confine them to a cell and an orange jumpsuit.
However it was designed, it shouldn't be allowed to be abused by rich fucks not giving up their millionaire lifestyle while continuing to rack up additional debt/judgements. You know these assholes are proponents of limiting what people can use welfare for (no steak or other "luxury" food styled arguments). Perhaps he should be limited to what a person on welfare is able to afford? You want to continue to pull in an income for "speeches" or whatever bullshit these grifters do for money? All but the bare minimum get frozen by the court until judgements are settled.
I don't disagree with you.
Just describing the existing system.
This is becoming a running thing for me on Kbin. Describing the system and facing people who are angry about the system.
I don't endorse it. I think it is bullshit. But it is what it is until we figure out how to make them fix it.
You'll have to specify you don't support it when describing it in a way that can be confused as a defense for it if you really want to avoid it. Saying, "nah it doesn't work like that." is very, very easy to take as an adversarial statement.
It doesn't imply defense, but it can come across as a defensive posture. Poe's Law kinda' sucks to deal with. It's one of many reasons good speech writers are kept around. It's not just about having correct English or making logically correct statements.
They were being neither parodic nor sarcastic so Poe’s law really doesn’t apply.
I also disagree that they have to specify they don’t support it. The comment is a statement of fact, a readers assumptions about the stance of the writer speaks to the readers bias, not the writers.
Yes, notice how I said, "...if you want to avoid it."
It wasn't an appeal for making correct statements. It was an appeal to hedge communication, which is always intelligent to do with a general audience. Most people do not think like a computer. You HAVE to communicate with that in mind to effectively communicate.
Yes, it's a problem with stupid people, but if you want stupid people to understand you, you better get used to it.
shoots the messenger
I think you are falling into the social media trap that every comment has to be a back and forth, or a disagreement. When you describe the existing system, if someone disagrees with it, it's not a disagreement with you. When you let that go and realize you don't need to reply, it's a weight lifted.
Keep informing and more people learn.
That's actually really good advice.
Cheers.
No it's not.
Exactly. You shouldn't come out of bankruptcy homeless, but you should absolutely be stripped of all but your smallest house and all trusts in your name.
Your smallest house? How about sell everything and start renting an apartment like every working person?
You understand that you could sentence Guliani, the world famous Mayor of New York during 9/11 to walk naked into the Antarctic tundra and he will be scooped up and pampered even harder for it.
By Maga. By Russia. By the fascist cops who justify their blue line culture by the legitimacy of post 9/11 "support the troops, thank the first responders" horse shit we showered them with for 20 years.
He should be in a cell.
Put them in cells.
However luxurious they can make that cell (less wifi), the only thing we can do with these fascists is to confine them to a cell and an orange jumpsuit.
Everything else is futile.