Thanks. I was just reading about the flicker of different LEDs this morning due to my similar distaste for the lack of warmth with current Christmas lights.
The lack of warmth is the color of LEDs, they are based on blues and no reds because of cost and efficiency. In places where you get a lot of sun in the US (Arizona, Southern Cali, etc.), I bet the blues are loved.
Yeah, but you can buy LEDs with different temperatures.
I don't think you understand the basics of lighting fabrication from that statement and those color temperatures are misleading.
I don’t think you understand the basics of lighting fabrication
probably
Most LEDs are based on a “blue pump”, which means the chip produces a lot of intensity in the blue wavelength range. Color temperatures are produced by adding more phosphor to the chip surface. The phosphor only allows certain wavelengths of color through, and the more phosphor added means the LED will appear warmer in color. More phosphor means more expensive though, which is why lots of LEDs are produced in the 7 to 5k range. Even when adding more phosphor to the chip and having a warmer color temperature, there is still blue light being produced and that can impact your sensitivity. Companies such as BIOS Lighting produce chips that don’t use a blue pump. Long story short, it’s a really complicated field that is long overdue for multiple layers of government regulation.
There are a lot of good articles about it. Explained in a rudimentary way, it's super hard to make good reds for LED and has been a problem since its inception. OLEDs use little organic red pixels and the blacks turn off all light instead of replicating a black. It's super interesting. When I was in school, they brought a major LED inventor to show us what they had, it wasn't good quality light at the time and for a long time afterwards. OLED was the first time I saw good reds. If you go to a costco, look at the difference between the reds on the same pic, can you tell there is a difference or does it all look sort of magenta? That's how you can tell if it's a good OLED or not. To be fair though, you can mess with the settings to make it look shitty which some stores do to sell more of a certain type of tv.
I'd be happy to read about it if you can point me in the right direction.
#color #oled #blacks #organic #reds
the blacks turn off all light instead of replicating a black
Wut
No light is emitted? Not sure how to clarify that for you. Instead of making a super dark blue, green, purple, etc., it turns out the light.
What exactly do you think black is?
OLED pixels are self emissive, which means each pixel emits its own light. Normal LED screens need a backlight (usually coming in from the edges) so you get light bleeding into what should be black pixels. OLEDs just turn off the pixel entirely. Some new LED screens are starting to be fully backlit which eliminates the light bleed problem but they are not widespread yet.
Dude, explain it to me.
My reds on my Christmas lights are not comforting either.. Oh, and I live in the South with plenty of sunlight...
That's interesting to know, I wonder if that's typical.
Thanks. I was just reading about the flicker of different LEDs this morning due to my similar distaste for the lack of warmth with current Christmas lights.
Oh, and direct link to article here. https://www.npr.org/2023/12/22/1198908957/led-lights-flicker-headache
The lack of warmth is the color of LEDs, they are based on blues and no reds because of cost and efficiency. In places where you get a lot of sun in the US (Arizona, Southern Cali, etc.), I bet the blues are loved.
Yeah, but you can buy LEDs with different temperatures.
I don't think you understand the basics of lighting fabrication from that statement and those color temperatures are misleading.
probably
Most LEDs are based on a “blue pump”, which means the chip produces a lot of intensity in the blue wavelength range. Color temperatures are produced by adding more phosphor to the chip surface. The phosphor only allows certain wavelengths of color through, and the more phosphor added means the LED will appear warmer in color. More phosphor means more expensive though, which is why lots of LEDs are produced in the 7 to 5k range. Even when adding more phosphor to the chip and having a warmer color temperature, there is still blue light being produced and that can impact your sensitivity. Companies such as BIOS Lighting produce chips that don’t use a blue pump. Long story short, it’s a really complicated field that is long overdue for multiple layers of government regulation.
There are a lot of good articles about it. Explained in a rudimentary way, it's super hard to make good reds for LED and has been a problem since its inception. OLEDs use little organic red pixels and the blacks turn off all light instead of replicating a black. It's super interesting. When I was in school, they brought a major LED inventor to show us what they had, it wasn't good quality light at the time and for a long time afterwards. OLED was the first time I saw good reds. If you go to a costco, look at the difference between the reds on the same pic, can you tell there is a difference or does it all look sort of magenta? That's how you can tell if it's a good OLED or not. To be fair though, you can mess with the settings to make it look shitty which some stores do to sell more of a certain type of tv.
I'd be happy to read about it if you can point me in the right direction.
#color #oled #blacks #organic #reds
Wut
No light is emitted? Not sure how to clarify that for you. Instead of making a super dark blue, green, purple, etc., it turns out the light.
What exactly do you think black is?
OLED pixels are self emissive, which means each pixel emits its own light. Normal LED screens need a backlight (usually coming in from the edges) so you get light bleeding into what should be black pixels. OLEDs just turn off the pixel entirely. Some new LED screens are starting to be fully backlit which eliminates the light bleed problem but they are not widespread yet.
Dude, explain it to me.
My reds on my Christmas lights are not comforting either.. Oh, and I live in the South with plenty of sunlight...
That's interesting to know, I wonder if that's typical.