Really? I would have sworn demsoc/socdem to be the most popular position here. At least during peak CET hours ;)
Negative, Ghost Rider.
Both Republicans and Democrats enthusiastically work together to keep us off the ballot and silenced in the media, and that includes federated media.
Dems get particularly upset when you point out the realities of Biden's America for the working class.
That’s funny. My experience with lemmy is it’s overwhelmingly leftist. And anything that doesn’t reinforce their worldview is heavily downvoted. Every liberal who isn’t hanging out on lemmygrad is called a liberal as a slur or a reactionary.
The only things I’ve seen that are exclusively non-leftist is the conservative Lemmy that thinks Fox News and Newsmax is a credible source of information
And whatever hexbear is.
The thing is that Democratic Socialism is not seen favorably by a lot of leftists, as they're seen as being more loyal to the establishment than to revolution. Too leftist for the American Overton window, but not leftist enough for Lemmygrad types, basically
I don’t know that it’s too leftist for me - just a lot of the personalities are too much for me - i can’t listen to anymore Bernie-would’ve-won and Hillary’s-a-war-criminal 8 years later.
I also think Hillary would’ve been a great president for real, so no one likes me either.
I also think Hillary would’ve been a great president for real, so no one likes me either.
A lot of people think Biden is a great president, which shows you just how low the bar is these days. FDR had a literal plot on his life and still had the balls to rule as a socialist, and he was so popular he ended up the longest-serving president in US history.
because any criticism of Biden right now helps Trump to become president. Save your criticisms when there is an actual open primary (ie: 2027), it's already too late for a challenge to Biden this year, as a majority of states ballot access filing deadline dates have already passed.
See what I mean?
¯_ (ツ)_/¯ . I consider myself dem soc, I just see the necessity of pragmatism right now; when the alternative is a presidential candidate who reads Mein Kampf as an instruction manual.
In America, you only have two choices. If you vote for something other that democrats or liberals, your vote is literally wasted. Both choices are considered "right" or "centrum right" in most European countries, there is no "left" choice. The system is utterly ridiculous and there's no escaping it. The most usefull thing you can do with your vote is to choose the least evil party (or join the system and change it from the inside).
In America, you only have two choices. If you vote for something other that democrats or liberals, your vote is literally wasted.
That logic is why we are where we are. A 40-year loss of personal and economic liberty, because you and yours refuse to see the two parties for what they are.
Do not vote third party under our current electoral system.
You need to either work within the current system like the Progressives do, or work to change the system to one that doesn't fuck people over if they vote third party.
Really? I would have sworn demsoc/socdem to be the most popular position here. At least during peak CET hours ;)
Negative, Ghost Rider.
Both Republicans and Democrats enthusiastically work together to keep us off the ballot and silenced in the media, and that includes federated media.
Dems get particularly upset when you point out the realities of Biden's America for the working class.
That’s funny. My experience with lemmy is it’s overwhelmingly leftist. And anything that doesn’t reinforce their worldview is heavily downvoted. Every liberal who isn’t hanging out on lemmygrad is called a liberal as a slur or a reactionary.
The only things I’ve seen that are exclusively non-leftist is the conservative Lemmy that thinks Fox News and Newsmax is a credible source of information
And whatever hexbear is.
The thing is that Democratic Socialism is not seen favorably by a lot of leftists, as they're seen as being more loyal to the establishment than to revolution. Too leftist for the American Overton window, but not leftist enough for Lemmygrad types, basically
I don’t know that it’s too leftist for me - just a lot of the personalities are too much for me - i can’t listen to anymore Bernie-would’ve-won and Hillary’s-a-war-criminal 8 years later.
I also think Hillary would’ve been a great president for real, so no one likes me either.
A lot of people think Biden is a great president, which shows you just how low the bar is these days. FDR had a literal plot on his life and still had the balls to rule as a socialist, and he was so popular he ended up the longest-serving president in US history.
Anyway left is globally right.
because any criticism of Biden right now helps Trump to become president. Save your criticisms when there is an actual open primary (ie: 2027), it's already too late for a challenge to Biden this year, as a majority of states ballot access filing deadline dates have already passed.
See what I mean?
¯_ (ツ)_/¯ . I consider myself dem soc, I just see the necessity of pragmatism right now; when the alternative is a presidential candidate who reads Mein Kampf as an instruction manual.
In America, you only have two choices. If you vote for something other that democrats or liberals, your vote is literally wasted. Both choices are considered "right" or "centrum right" in most European countries, there is no "left" choice. The system is utterly ridiculous and there's no escaping it. The most usefull thing you can do with your vote is to choose the least evil party (or join the system and change it from the inside).
That logic is why we are where we are. A 40-year loss of personal and economic liberty, because you and yours refuse to see the two parties for what they are.
I'll vote Green. You should too.
Part of the effort to keep third parties off the ballot is that you make shit infinitely worse.
It's called the spoiler effect, and it fucks us over all the god-damn time.
Do not vote third party under our current electoral system.
You need to either work within the current system like the Progressives do, or work to change the system to one that doesn't fuck people over if they vote third party.
If you want to get involved with actually doing that second thing, here's a great place to start.
I think so, too.