Lemmy controversy?
Hi, there have been some controversy on lemmy and in particular lemmy.ml with regards to affiliation with Putin.
I was wondering what were the point of view of the owner of Lemmy.world on the topic.
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My political views are not important, we just have a set of rules and as long as you follow these any decent polite discussion would be possible.
I'm also not going to ban !ajax@lemmy.world just because I support a different team..
I think no one would blame you or complain if you ban Ajax
Thank you! This is by far the best approach.
You are super awesome!!!
Will you consider defederating lemmygrad.ml?
Defederation should be a last resort when an instance is always making problems outside of itself or have illegal content. Otherwise it is better for the network to remain connected and not partitioned and for blocks and moderation to deal with problems. Respectful community members should be allowed to participate respectfully all over the network regardless of their views as long as they behave.
For example I personally am very critical of Israel, and would not want a Palestinian instance defederated, but at the same time, an Israeli instance deserves to be allowed to enjoy it as well even if the two are very likely to have different views.
Does it accomplish much? The same users can just create accounts on lemmy.ml or here.
The brigading is an issue, but defederating doesn't seem like a huge help right now.
Doesn't defederating mean posts won't show up? That seems like probably the main reason to defederate. You'll never stop people from creating new accounts or a new instance, but defederating creates friction forcing people to take an alternative route if they want to troll.
Regarding lemmygrad, has there been any trolling via alt accounts on instances that have defederated? Even if I disagree with their politics they seem generally respectful of the communities. But I've been away from Lemmy for a while so maybe I've missed something.
Oxygen of publicity spreads toxicity. Defederation would take away a huge part of their potential to reach people, if they're being toxic.
It makes it harder. I doubt most people are that determined.
Thank you for being awesome.
...isn't there a point at which it's not just 'politics', though? Like mass killing of civilians and genocide?
Like... C'mon. This should be an easy one.
What politics do you hold that has never in history been associated with atrocities by its opponents.
I'm not talking about history, though. I'm talking about now. These atrocities are happening now.
The fact that you tacitly admit this, but dismiss it with "well, everyone has some skeletons in their closet" is disturbing. You should rethink your priorities.
So dodging the question.
No, your question was flawed. Ask better questions.
More dodging.
The cope is pretty ureal with this one
Lol, seethe liberal.
Funnily enough this is what beehaw mod says. Obviously they have different approach on moderation/censorship. That's fine. That's the point of federation. Little frustrating how big beehaw has become over the past single week and then suddenly goes censoring like CCP.
Well, I’d say they’re more important than you’re letting on. Hypothetically speaking (and not lobbing accusations), if you for example supported the modern Nazi movement, that would be something your users should know.
Might be nice to hear you’re not pro-Putin though without specifics.