‘We Didn’t Get All The Way There On Jan 6’: Trump Booster Pledges to End Democracy in CPAC Rant as Bannon Cheers On

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‘We Didn’t Get All The Way There On Jan 6’: Trump Booster Pledges to End Democracy in CPAC Rant as Bannon Cheers On
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“Welcome to the end of democracy!” Posobiec declared. “We’re here to overthrow it completely. We didn’t get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here,” he said, holding his fist in the air. “That’s right, because all glory is not to government, all glory to God.”

Steve Bannon, former White House adviser, is heard in the background exclaiming, “All right! Amen!”

All Republicans are perfectly happy with the idea of having a (Christo-)fascist dictatorship in power in the U.S. . All that they care about is that the dictatorship rewards them with money and power. I know Republicans like this, people you might think were just ordinary folks, and they're masters of telling themselves stories to justify their violence and thievery and masters at not seeing anything that might cause cognitive dissonance, to the extent that they're capable of that at all.

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This is a stupid ass take, the issue here is the fascism, not the thinly veiled veneer they're using to sell it.

Religion makes people dumb and easily manipulated. Fascism just takes advantage of that.

Yet either stupid ass take.

If you can't defend your position without resorting to insults, then your position isn't worth defending.

"Dur hur, religion make people dumb" received exactly the kind of reply it deserved.

Well, it's a demonstrable fact that there is a high correlation of heavily religious districts in the US and districts with low education. Whether one causes the other, or they both have a common cause, is up for debate.

Religion absolutely makes people dumb. There is no sky daddy, deal with it.

That's another stupid ass take.

It seems like you might be the one with the stupid ass take, buddy.

Nope, the above claim is the stupid ass take. That's why I called it out.

Indeed, all your comments here above are stupid takes, as shown by the downvotes. Thanks for agreeing with us.

Now tell me, do you think your god is all-loving before or after he committed genocide multiple times (including on animals and babies)?

Someone who thinks public approval is the measure of a solid point is exactly the kind of person I'd expect to be spitting the bigotry and ignorance above.

We call kids stupid for believing in Santa, so what is the difference between that and believing in a sky daddy?

It does though

The same stupid ass take as above, and just as stupid.

You can keep repeating this, doesn't make it any more true.

Did your god not grant you with the intelligence needed for better responses?

You sound like you have a lot of hate in your heart. I'll be praying for you 🙏

You are in no position to judge the state of my heart, but should you feel moved to pray on my behalf, it is appreciated.

If you are a Christian, you might want to try to follow the teachings of Jesus instead of picking fights on the internet.

I'm not picking a fight, I'm calling out an obvious bullshit take that is being parroted by people as if it had any merit.

That's not very Christian of you. Jesus would be disappointed.

I'm not concerned with your judgement regarding what is or isn't Christian.

You should be concerned with Jesus's judgement, because he'd be disappointed in the way you're acting.

But, if you read the Bible and came to the conclusion that Jesus wanted you insulting strangers in defense of him, you're reinforcing the, "religious people are stupid," theory.

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"Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire

And Voltaire is entitled to his opinion. I'm under no onus to give it any more credence than the rest of his body of work.

Based on my experience with religious people, a lot of them want to commit atrocities but know they need more people believing in their absurdities to get there.

Then you should hang around different religious people, because that's given you an unjustifiably negative bias.

You're certainly doing nothing to dispossess me of my existing notions.

I've told you that they're unjustifiable and false, that's the extent of my contribution to them.

Your assertions do nothing in the face of lived experience.

Your "lived experiences" amount to nothing more than bigotry and prejudice.

Yet another stupid ass take.

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To ignore religion is to misunderstand the rise fascism

Bullshit. The two are unrelated.

This is SUCH a throughly researched link that it's really not up for debate. So I'm not gonna spend time arguing with you. Just point you at sources so you can understand the links yourself.

Bullshit. Fascism has made use of religion, just as it's made use of every other facet of culture to gain power. The two are unrelated.

Part of having faith is ability to ignore inconvenient truths, as your post demonstrates.

Sounds like you know as little about faith as you do about fascism.

I note you’ve contributed nothing to the discussion. Please lay out your credentials so that I might see what mighty intellect I’m dealing with here. Thanks.

Your uninformed assertions and bigotry don't merit that level of respect. Educate yourself and be better, it's not my job to fix you.

What is your job then? To waste people’s time? To masturbate furiously to downvotes?

Then shut up and stop commenting lol. Don't "fix them" then.

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Don't bother arguing with this religious nut guy, this one is about as nutty as they come, even is trying to get a c/Christianity community going lol

Another fine candidate for my religious nut user tag!

When your definition of "religious nut" becomes anyone who holds any religion whatsoever, you've officially lost all credibility.

Lol, if religion and it's people keep getting used as a "thinly veiled veneer" over and over across the thousands of years we've been stuck with it, maybe just maybe the problem is with religion itself.

No, the problem is with the fascists and authoritarians using it for their own ends, just like they use culture, race, sex, gender, class, national origin, and any other tool they can to get people to send them to power.

Do all those pastors and bishops also use culture, race, sex, gender, class and national origin, in order to manipulate and control the masses into holy wars?

Or is that just Religion?

No, ideologues of all kinds use religion, culture, race, sex, gender, class, and national origin to manipulate and control, and engage in wars for their own purposes. Sometimes they use religion for those purposes, sometimes some other avenue. Blaming religion is idiotic.

Keep your religion out of our government. You have no right pushing your religious beliefs upon others through the use of government.

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