Everybody? Like if you were sitting around rubbing your belly and licking your lips going "Mmmm mmmm wish I had a big sea turtle meat dish right now", like - don't. Okay?
Just leave the sea turtles alone. They got enough hassles.
Agreed! Leave the turtles alone!
And the cows. And the pigs. And the chickens. They all have enough problems.
Found the compassionate individual.
Their username is a clue.
The comment you're replying to is already a reference to the username
Everyone who downvoted this should know that pigs are raised in pens where they don't have enough room to turn around and have to sleep and give birth in their own shit.
But hey, the narwhal bacons at midnight, right?
The juvenile preoccupation with shaming vegans online is so fucking exhausting and annoying. You'd think the existence of vegans and the idea of eating less meat to reduce overall cruelty was like asking them to sell their child into slavery.
People would rather do anything than admit their contribution to the problem.
I see it all the time.
I raise my own pigs in large pens and they are treated well until slaughter.
What are your feelings on that?
That you are slaughtering them. So you aren't testing them well at all. That's just a thing you say so you can feel better about knowingly causing harm. Do you treat your cat well until you kill the for the pleasure of their body? Do you treat your dog well until someone pays you enough to kill it?
Being nice to a creature before murdering it doesn't absolve the murder. Not causing harm in another is the standard for ethical behavior, not you going the extra mile.
I do a rudimentary arithmetic and geometry test before slaughter.
They’re not going to live forever in nature and I give them a very good life.
Plus all the great meats come from pig.
Bacon, ham, and all the other great porky bits.
They’re not going to live forever in nature and I give them a very good life.
Again. Does not absolve murder. Literally no one will live forever, but that's not a reason why you can kill your neighbors.
Plus all the great meats come from pig.
Harming a creature for your own personal pleasure is the logic of dog fighting. You don't need to watch that as entertainment just as you don't need to kill for the enjoyment of food.
I feel like you using very selfish reasoning. Does assault, rape or murder become moral if I enjoy it enough?
Meat is great and I enjoy it.
I do not enjoy taking to you so good bye.
Fair enough, but I made my stance clear from the start and you literally asked for my opinion on your situation specifically so I'm not gonna hound you or anything.
I just think you have cognitive dissonance around a cultural norm, but lots of people do for lots of different topics so that doesn't make you a bad person.
Have a good night.
Everyone who downvoted this should know that pigs are raised in pens where they don't have enough room to turn around and have to sleep and give birth in their own shit.
But none of that is the reason you have a problem with raising pigs because if they are treated well you still have a problem with the raising and slaughter of animals for food so no you did not make your stance clear.
I asked your opinion and I got a lecture that I didn’t ask for.
Yeah, don't . . . . don't eat sea turtles, okay.
Everybody? Like if you were sitting around rubbing your belly and licking your lips going "Mmmm mmmm wish I had a big sea turtle meat dish right now", like - don't. Okay?
Just leave the sea turtles alone. They got enough hassles.
Agreed! Leave the turtles alone!
And the cows. And the pigs. And the chickens. They all have enough problems.
Found the compassionate individual.
Their username is a clue.
The comment you're replying to is already a reference to the username
Everyone who downvoted this should know that pigs are raised in pens where they don't have enough room to turn around and have to sleep and give birth in their own shit.
But hey, the narwhal bacons at midnight, right?
The juvenile preoccupation with shaming vegans online is so fucking exhausting and annoying. You'd think the existence of vegans and the idea of eating less meat to reduce overall cruelty was like asking them to sell their child into slavery.
People would rather do anything than admit their contribution to the problem.
I see it all the time.
I raise my own pigs in large pens and they are treated well until slaughter.
What are your feelings on that?
That you are slaughtering them. So you aren't testing them well at all. That's just a thing you say so you can feel better about knowingly causing harm. Do you treat your cat well until you kill the for the pleasure of their body? Do you treat your dog well until someone pays you enough to kill it?
Being nice to a creature before murdering it doesn't absolve the murder. Not causing harm in another is the standard for ethical behavior, not you going the extra mile.
I do a rudimentary arithmetic and geometry test before slaughter.
They’re not going to live forever in nature and I give them a very good life.
Plus all the great meats come from pig.
Bacon, ham, and all the other great porky bits.
Again. Does not absolve murder. Literally no one will live forever, but that's not a reason why you can kill your neighbors.
Harming a creature for your own personal pleasure is the logic of dog fighting. You don't need to watch that as entertainment just as you don't need to kill for the enjoyment of food.
I feel like you using very selfish reasoning. Does assault, rape or murder become moral if I enjoy it enough?
Meat is great and I enjoy it.
I do not enjoy taking to you so good bye.
Fair enough, but I made my stance clear from the start and you literally asked for my opinion on your situation specifically so I'm not gonna hound you or anything.
I just think you have cognitive dissonance around a cultural norm, but lots of people do for lots of different topics so that doesn't make you a bad person.
Have a good night.
But none of that is the reason you have a problem with raising pigs because if they are treated well you still have a problem with the raising and slaughter of animals for food so no you did not make your stance clear.
I asked your opinion and I got a lecture that I didn’t ask for.
And the humans
Ok, so there's a risk of death. If I'm on a desert island then I'll risk it, otherwise I'll avoid.