Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear

Armok: God of Blood@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Fediverse@lemmy.world – 160 points –

The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It's absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn't be allowed to continue.

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Moreover, it seems pretty clear to me that .ml intends to keep their finger on the scale as much as possible. Just saying "oh federation solves all the problems just block them" doesn't really fix the issue when there are a bunch of ways they can potentially run malicious versions of the code base to mess with how federation functions and hold onto their influence. For example, they are already refusing to federate their mod logs in some cases, and they've shown themselves to be completely shameless and hypocritical when it comes to banning any and all dissent. They simply cannot be trusted.

I personally believe that the broader fediverse should seriously consider taking serious steps to cut out .ml before they do something drastic to fuck it all up

They also manipulated the modlog on their site to not differentiate between removed by mod and removed by admin. So even When something is removed by Dessalines or Nutomic it'll still show as moderator and not admin in the mod log.

That your lies get any upvotes is quite sad, i thought people on lemmy were tech savvy. I'm not and even i can see that you're making this stuff up.

Maybe go back to .ml where people don’t need proof to support their arguments and just make wild sweeping accusations, but it’s been proven already that OP is correct.

You’re just wrong.

Where is the proof please? As far as i can see, the lemmy.world modlog is the outlier, not the lemmy.ml one.

Plenty of people have provided proof. You’re free to check all the threads here and find them yourself. At this point I’d just be repeating the same sources.

Do your own work. Don’t expect everyone to do it for you.

Sorry but i cannot find anything. If the proof for Draconic's claims is so obvious and plenty, please be so kind and link at least one bit to me. The only thing i could find that seems like some kind of "proof" is the screenshot @Draconic_NEO posted. How they got to take it i have no idea, not saying they drew it in paint, but here is what it looks like on my side (same mod actions):

Again, it’s not my job to provide evidence already provided.

no evidence has been provided though

You inability to agree with it doesn’t dismiss it. We’re done here. This is a waste of time.

it's not about whether I agree,it's about whether it shows what is being claimed

It’s been proven. I’m not arguing this with you. Find it yourself.

a claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. you are responsible for supporting your own position. I wouldn't ask you to find evidence to support my position. that would be silly.

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doesn’t really fix the issue when there are a bunch of ways they can potentially run malicious versions of the code base to mess with how federation functions and hold onto their influence.

This is hysteria of Chinese spy balloon proportions 😂

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

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