Exactly how do Glassdoor expect people to give earnest reviews of their employers (which is literally the core of their business) if those people can't trust Glassdoor to not to throw them under the bus when they give honest reviews of malicious employers?
Talk about sabotaging your own business model - idiots.
The anonymity was the whole point to that site.
Exactly how do Glassdoor expect people to give earnest reviews of their employers
They don't. The enshitification has begun and they only care about short-term profits now that they've built up a user base.
earnest reviews of their employers (which is literally the core of their business
I don't understand the need for a site like this. I just assume that my employer is going to suck in standard corporate suck fashion.
There are levels to that suck though
And sometimes it's not just corporate suck. I've literally had the CIO of a construction contractor berate me on the phone before I had started. Needless to say I didn't take their offer
Name and shame. And publish your real name while you're at it.
Haha. I really want to do the first part, but relatively local to my region. I'd rather not give that out right now :\
Same. Got screamed at before the interview. don't know why I even bothered going, maybe just curious how fucked up the place would be.
Left them a bad Google maps review which was kinda fun since they had zero reviews before I left one. They left a screaming reply to it hahah
What happened that they screamed at you even before an interview?
Was a long time ago but I remember it was something small like I had used my old snail mail address on my resume vs my cover-letter.
But hey they bought me lunch so it wasn't a total lost and I got to see all the people running the place act like total assholes to each other. So dinner and a show.
There's the normal suck, then there's "I (been there 12 years) got passed up for promotion to replace my boss who retired because the owner's nephew who worked with us for a few years (sucked and "volentarely" left 6 years ago) decided their cyptoscheme wasn't working out and needed a job, and that was the highest one paying one avalible."
Or the "Sally got verably harassed dailiy and they did nothing because the harrasser has been there 30 years. 'He's just an old man in his early 50s, older gentlemen call ladies nicknames like sweetcakes, honey, or cutie all the time. They also like to rub peoples shoulders to show affec to help relive the tension and promote a healthier work environment' "
Ok, but if your expectations are permanent nerfed you're gonna be a much easier mark... Plus tacit acceptance of a shitty status quo is pretty self-defeating.
Ok, but if your expectations are permanent nerfed you’re gonna be a much easier mark… Plus tacit acceptance of a shitty status quo is pretty self-defeating.
Thank you for saying this.
I don't get how so many people are so willing to just pull down their pants and bend over, instead of pushing back.
I've had a couple of good jobs where I was treated well and compensated well all around. Companies like that would be glad to have reviews from happy employees visible to the public on a trustworthy review site.
Some are much more capable of disguising it during the interview process.
In the tech industry around the pandemic there was the great resignation and companies were tripping over themselves to employ as many people as possible. It was great then because you had so many options and they were all seemingly similar job descriptions.
Now the site is shitty and getting a job is terrible. Woo capitalism!
Frankly I never trusted Glassdoor. I assume most reviews are made by the companies HR department to lie about how great it is. I just need to look at the reviews of the companies I've worked for to see that it's 99% bullshit.
Don't trust employers. They lie to you and underpay you.
That's why you only read the negative reviews
There was one place a friend worked where all the glassdoor reviews said there were "growing pains". I don't think that many normal people who have intact souls would describe startup dysfunction as "growing pains."
It has its uses. And one bad employer can really mess you up for a while. It takes a lot of effort to have a low score on that site.
Because it's worth knowing beforehand what a company is really like behind closed doors.
Some companies are great, some suck in standard corporate fashion, but there are some out there that are exceptional in sucking...
I'll use myself an example... the last company I worked for, our team was constantly given deadlines that were impossible to meet within work hours. The company basically refused to pay for what was essentially mandatory overtime required to catch up - wage theft by a different name.
Fortunately my role allowed me to push back, but most of peers didn't - we were all straight out of university, some needed the money/job, but most just didn't know how to fight in the corporate environment.
Not to mention that a few folks who did try to complain against the company conveniently found themselves fired for some miscellaneous breaches of contract. From what I heard, one was even fired based on their reaction to being told they were being dismissed - quite literally entrapment.
If you're wondering why we didn't sue or anything like that, again we were all straight out of uni, we barely knew what our working rights were...
Which is why Glassdoor was important - it was how most of these folks got word out about the company and tried to warn other potential candidates of what they were walking into.
The company knew about it too because they posted multiple fake reviews to try to drown out the real ones. I know for a fact that if they were able to find out who posted these, they would have retaliated, likely in the form of litigation.
Exactly how do Glassdoor expect people to give earnest reviews of their employers (which is literally the core of their business) if those people can't trust Glassdoor to not to throw them under the bus when they give honest reviews of malicious employers?
Talk about sabotaging your own business model - idiots.
The anonymity was the whole point to that site.
They don't. The enshitification has begun and they only care about short-term profits now that they've built up a user base.
I don't understand the need for a site like this. I just assume that my employer is going to suck in standard corporate suck fashion.
There are levels to that suck though
And sometimes it's not just corporate suck. I've literally had the CIO of a construction contractor berate me on the phone before I had started. Needless to say I didn't take their offer
Name and shame. And publish your real name while you're at it.
Haha. I really want to do the first part, but relatively local to my region. I'd rather not give that out right now :\
Same. Got screamed at before the interview. don't know why I even bothered going, maybe just curious how fucked up the place would be.
Left them a bad Google maps review which was kinda fun since they had zero reviews before I left one. They left a screaming reply to it hahah
What happened that they screamed at you even before an interview?
Was a long time ago but I remember it was something small like I had used my old snail mail address on my resume vs my cover-letter.
But hey they bought me lunch so it wasn't a total lost and I got to see all the people running the place act like total assholes to each other. So dinner and a show.
There's the normal suck, then there's "I (been there 12 years) got passed up for promotion to replace my boss who retired because the owner's nephew who worked with us for a few years (sucked and "volentarely" left 6 years ago) decided their cyptoscheme wasn't working out and needed a job, and that was the highest one paying one avalible."
Or the "Sally got verably harassed dailiy and they did nothing because the harrasser has been there 30 years. 'He's just an old man in his early 50s, older gentlemen call ladies nicknames like sweetcakes, honey, or cutie all the time. They also like to rub peoples shoulders to show
affecto help relive the tension and promote a healthier work environment' "Ok, but if your expectations are permanent nerfed you're gonna be a much easier mark... Plus tacit acceptance of a shitty status quo is pretty self-defeating.
Thank you for saying this.
I don't get how so many people are so willing to just pull down their pants and bend over, instead of pushing back.
I've had a couple of good jobs where I was treated well and compensated well all around. Companies like that would be glad to have reviews from happy employees visible to the public on a trustworthy review site.
Some are much more capable of disguising it during the interview process.
In the tech industry around the pandemic there was the great resignation and companies were tripping over themselves to employ as many people as possible. It was great then because you had so many options and they were all seemingly similar job descriptions.
Now the site is shitty and getting a job is terrible. Woo capitalism!
Frankly I never trusted Glassdoor. I assume most reviews are made by the companies HR department to lie about how great it is. I just need to look at the reviews of the companies I've worked for to see that it's 99% bullshit.
Don't trust employers. They lie to you and underpay you.
That's why you only read the negative reviews
There was one place a friend worked where all the glassdoor reviews said there were "growing pains". I don't think that many normal people who have intact souls would describe startup dysfunction as "growing pains."
It has its uses. And one bad employer can really mess you up for a while. It takes a lot of effort to have a low score on that site.
Because it's worth knowing beforehand what a company is really like behind closed doors.
Some companies are great, some suck in standard corporate fashion, but there are some out there that are exceptional in sucking...
I'll use myself an example... the last company I worked for, our team was constantly given deadlines that were impossible to meet within work hours. The company basically refused to pay for what was essentially mandatory overtime required to catch up - wage theft by a different name.
Fortunately my role allowed me to push back, but most of peers didn't - we were all straight out of university, some needed the money/job, but most just didn't know how to fight in the corporate environment.
Not to mention that a few folks who did try to complain against the company conveniently found themselves fired for some miscellaneous breaches of contract. From what I heard, one was even fired based on their reaction to being told they were being dismissed - quite literally entrapment.
If you're wondering why we didn't sue or anything like that, again we were all straight out of uni, we barely knew what our working rights were...
Which is why Glassdoor was important - it was how most of these folks got word out about the company and tried to warn other potential candidates of what they were walking into.
The company knew about it too because they posted multiple fake reviews to try to drown out the real ones. I know for a fact that if they were able to find out who posted these, they would have retaliated, likely in the form of litigation.