Yay censorship and users not being able to make decisions for themselves!
Yay emotions!
We came here to get away from corporations. Its not about censorship. You sound like a corporate shill with that take.
How does defederating protect you from Facebook? Honest question.
Their instance won't be able to interact with ours. If everyone does it we basically wall them in their own garden. But this time of our making. This honestly won't stop their content being reposted here.
My impression is that the hope is it will stop them from doing EEE on us
I thought we were here to say f off to one corporation. Can I still use the local grocery store??
Idk he sounds pretty reasonable to me and is specifically not lumping everyone into the same group as you are. Not everyone shares your opinion. Not everyone cares enough. I think the individual should be able to decide for themselves, and the ability to block an instance yourself is something desperately needed over this kind of wanton shutting out of things only some people are against.
Speak for yourself.
Everyone came here for their own reasons. Try not to project how you feel onto literally everyone else, lol.
Lemmy is not a place for the type of people that end needlessly rude sentences with LOL. Everyone hates the LOL at end
Lol, what?
Sounds like you need to moderate your own instance, lol.
Users are making decisions for themselves.
No they aren't. Users literally do not have the power to choose which instances they see. They have to rely on their instance admins or make their own instance.
You know you can choose another instance, or, Ya know, make a threads account.
Personally I don't want any sponsored posts here.
Or I can stay on this one because it's federating in a way that suits me?
You know, you could choose another instance like lemmy.ml instead of trying to get lemmy.world to be more like it.
Logic. It is not present in this thread, lol.
You're free to decide to move to another instance... SimpleππΌ
And free to not move from lemmy.world if they don't block Facebook
They can always make an account that federates with Threads, or make a Threads acccount, or host their own Instance and be their own lord of the manor. You choose that here.
This complaint doesn't work. "Noones treading on you, sweetie."
Or they could stay on lemmy.world? What exactly is the problem here?
It sounds like you don't want to see an instance and think everyone else shouldn't see it either. I'm glad you're not the one making these decisions!
It's hilarious how you people aren't even satisfied with lemmy.ml blocking facebook. No, you need all of the big instances to block it. Grow up.
It would be nice if users could block entire instances on their own. That would completely solve this problem.
They could stay on Lemmy.ml but you said yourself that you're "tired of people making choices for you". Im not sure how you thought using someone else's server works. They own it, they can do what they want. Isn't that how right leaning Americans want it? The thing about Federation is that even John Q Citizen can spin up their own Instance. Noone is forcing you to use someone else's Instance and be bound by that Instances rules. Own your Instance server you can make the rules.
Also, your you of "You people" is disingenuous because what makes you think this is my only account, on the only server. There's nothing saying I can't have accounts on every public server. Because, as mentioned, I am free to not agree with an admins choices and noone is forcing me to stay on one Instance.
And your last - part you can! Own your own Server Instance and you can Defederate all you want! You cN even launch your own Communities identical to the others to not miss out on content you do want to see.
"No, you start your server!"
"No, you!"
That's what you sound like to me.
I'm literally telling you all that lemmy.world is fine for me and you're trying to make the backwards argument that it should change for you and I should spin up my own instance?
My god. Logic is not present in this thread at all. Just say "I don't like facebook and neither should anyone else." You'd come across as more genuine.
Also, users shouldn't have to host their own instance to choose what instances they see. They should have the ability to block entire instances just like they block communities and users. This is a horrible oversight of the platform and hopefully will be fixed soon.
If an Instance Owner holds a vote and 98% of people say they want to Fedi with Threads, and the owner Defederates anyway, they can do that because they own it. It will make those 98% unhappy, but that's the price of being on that owners Instance. The owner has execute authority.
So the alternatives are - in order of difficulty and effort/cost 1.Make a Threads account 2.join a Fedi that is still federated with them 3.Make your own.
If the 98% were actually that unhappy and did literally anything other than staying and creating content on that Instance, then it reduces traffic to that Instance. And the owner is left with a ton of sunken cost in hardware for not listening to a 98% vote. That's how capitalism is supposed to work, right?
Yay censorship and users not being able to make decisions for themselves!
Yay emotions!
We came here to get away from corporations. Its not about censorship. You sound like a corporate shill with that take.
How does defederating protect you from Facebook? Honest question.
Their instance won't be able to interact with ours. If everyone does it we basically wall them in their own garden. But this time of our making. This honestly won't stop their content being reposted here.
My impression is that the hope is it will stop them from doing EEE on us
I thought we were here to say f off to one corporation. Can I still use the local grocery store??
Idk he sounds pretty reasonable to me and is specifically not lumping everyone into the same group as you are. Not everyone shares your opinion. Not everyone cares enough. I think the individual should be able to decide for themselves, and the ability to block an instance yourself is something desperately needed over this kind of wanton shutting out of things only some people are against.
Speak for yourself.
Everyone came here for their own reasons. Try not to project how you feel onto literally everyone else, lol.
Lemmy is not a place for the type of people that end needlessly rude sentences with LOL. Everyone hates the LOL at end
Lol, what?
Sounds like you need to moderate your own instance, lol.
Users are making decisions for themselves.
No they aren't. Users literally do not have the power to choose which instances they see. They have to rely on their instance admins or make their own instance.
You know you can choose another instance, or, Ya know, make a threads account.
Personally I don't want any sponsored posts here.
Or I can stay on this one because it's federating in a way that suits me?
You know, you could choose another instance like lemmy.ml instead of trying to get lemmy.world to be more like it.
Logic. It is not present in this thread, lol.
You're free to decide to move to another instance... SimpleππΌ
And free to not move from lemmy.world if they don't block Facebook
They can always make an account that federates with Threads, or make a Threads acccount, or host their own Instance and be their own lord of the manor. You choose that here.
This complaint doesn't work. "Noones treading on you, sweetie."
Or they could stay on lemmy.world? What exactly is the problem here?
It sounds like you don't want to see an instance and think everyone else shouldn't see it either. I'm glad you're not the one making these decisions!
It's hilarious how you people aren't even satisfied with lemmy.ml blocking facebook. No, you need all of the big instances to block it. Grow up.
It would be nice if users could block entire instances on their own. That would completely solve this problem.
They could stay on Lemmy.ml but you said yourself that you're "tired of people making choices for you". Im not sure how you thought using someone else's server works. They own it, they can do what they want. Isn't that how right leaning Americans want it? The thing about Federation is that even John Q Citizen can spin up their own Instance. Noone is forcing you to use someone else's Instance and be bound by that Instances rules. Own your Instance server you can make the rules.
Also, your you of "You people" is disingenuous because what makes you think this is my only account, on the only server. There's nothing saying I can't have accounts on every public server. Because, as mentioned, I am free to not agree with an admins choices and noone is forcing me to stay on one Instance.
And your last - part you can! Own your own Server Instance and you can Defederate all you want! You cN even launch your own Communities identical to the others to not miss out on content you do want to see.
"No, you start your server!"
"No, you!"
That's what you sound like to me.
I'm literally telling you all that lemmy.world is fine for me and you're trying to make the backwards argument that it should change for you and I should spin up my own instance?
My god. Logic is not present in this thread at all. Just say "I don't like facebook and neither should anyone else." You'd come across as more genuine.
Also, users shouldn't have to host their own instance to choose what instances they see. They should have the ability to block entire instances just like they block communities and users. This is a horrible oversight of the platform and hopefully will be fixed soon.
If an Instance Owner holds a vote and 98% of people say they want to Fedi with Threads, and the owner Defederates anyway, they can do that because they own it. It will make those 98% unhappy, but that's the price of being on that owners Instance. The owner has execute authority.
So the alternatives are - in order of difficulty and effort/cost 1.Make a Threads account 2.join a Fedi that is still federated with them 3.Make your own.
If the 98% were actually that unhappy and did literally anything other than staying and creating content on that Instance, then it reduces traffic to that Instance. And the owner is left with a ton of sunken cost in hardware for not listening to a 98% vote. That's how capitalism is supposed to work, right?