I hate this so much.
Why should they be able to do this?
One thing is stopping customer support and internal software/OS development. But why should they BLOCK compatibility for third party developers?
I guess because fuck you, they got their money 🤷 It really should be illegal.
Tech company, they love E-Waste. Your thing can still play fine? Fuck you, buy our new shit that have all those advanced privacy invasive tracker loaded into it, and let us snoop around so we can share your info with other tech company.
I still can't fathom people are somehow okay with buying a device that is, by design and function, festooned with cameras and microphones from goddamn Facebook and waving it around inside their homes. Like, what?
I bought Oculus Quest 1. OCULUS! Facebook promised to leave them alone, for them to remain oculus, But after a year or so, merging started, firstly with oculus accounts vanishing into fb, then renaming to Meta Quest and now the only thing that remain is logo.
What exactly is a promise from Facebook worth? You saw what happened to Palmer Luckey (although he is wiping those tears with crisp hundred dollar bills).
Nothing, since they've already lied about the ongoing account integration requirements for their various VR products, like, three (?) major times so far. I don't trust a damn thing they say about anything.
If Meta told me the sky was blue I'd be searching for independent verification.
Vr is very price prohibitive and Oculus/Facebook sell headsets at a loss to make their marketshare. Its not great but if you want to "try vr" especially something you hear will make you physically sick to use and you might not even like. Its just logical to spend the least amount of money on it for a "proper headset". Like if you value your privacy that is fine and completely understandable but lets be honest here, most people don't. Especially with the popularization of social media and smart phones like we can even apply the same logic with your argument with phones like why would you buy a device that has so many cameras and microphones and wave it around your home and toilet. Hell I think the phone is actually worse since most people bring them everywhere while a headset is a bit more constrained on where you can take it.
But they make their new products with 10% of recycled plastics and a cardboard box! SO ECO-FRIENDLY!
By killing the product completely they're forcing their users to upgrade. It's always profits man, that's always the reason
It's called "planned obsolescence".
Not even planned obsolescence... It's just "hey, you guys aren't buying our slightly better new version. We were talking today about how to make a little bit more money, and we decided, hey, we don't want to maintain this anymore. We also don't want to unlock it and let someone else take over, and while we're at it let's just start shutting off features until you buy a new one. Because fuck you"
I know. I was saying that is so unreasonable that they shouldn't be allowed to do it.
That said. I hope people are not so stupid to trust Meta with an upgrade after something like that.
Better to have invested in a Valve Index I feel than get an Oculus. Might be more expensive, but I trust Valve to not completely fuck over their consumers.
Minor exception is Australia.
Valve hates Australia (valve lost in court over refunds here).
So we don't get access to their hardware directly. It's lame.
I don't get why you're being downvoted, sounds like a localization/price/law thing, like Brazil and the price of consoles and games over there.
It's lemmy.
I'm used to it. If you post something that's not with the hive mind, you get down voted, regardless of you are correct.
I mean not really. Again the index is a great headset but look at how long people actually use their headsets for. Is it better to throw your money into a pit that is $400 or $1000. VR is a weird since you either love it or hate it. Most people are going to hate it and many people aren't really into the idea of reselling their stuff. This isn't to say facebook good or some nonsense like that but from a prospective customer's standpoint why spend so much money on something you might not even like. You don't have to drill any holes in your walls to put up base stations while inside out tracking isn't great it gets the job done and again its far more convenient. I like the option to have base stations but again realistically putting in so much work for something you might only spend a week or month on is not a great investment of your money or time. If you like VR, I would highly suggest getting a better headset than a quest or oculus headset but a newcomer I will 100% suggest a quest over anything else especially a used model to save them extra cash.
I hate this so much. Why should they be able to do this?
One thing is stopping customer support and internal software/OS development. But why should they BLOCK compatibility for third party developers?
I guess because fuck you, they got their money 🤷 It really should be illegal.
Tech company, they love E-Waste. Your thing can still play fine? Fuck you, buy our new shit that have all those advanced privacy invasive tracker loaded into it, and let us snoop around so we can share your info with other tech company.
I still can't fathom people are somehow okay with buying a device that is, by design and function, festooned with cameras and microphones from goddamn Facebook and waving it around inside their homes. Like, what?
I bought Oculus Quest 1. OCULUS! Facebook promised to leave them alone, for them to remain oculus, But after a year or so, merging started, firstly with oculus accounts vanishing into fb, then renaming to Meta Quest and now the only thing that remain is logo.
What exactly is a promise from Facebook worth? You saw what happened to Palmer Luckey (although he is wiping those tears with crisp hundred dollar bills).
Nothing, since they've already lied about the ongoing account integration requirements for their various VR products, like, three (?) major times so far. I don't trust a damn thing they say about anything.
If Meta told me the sky was blue I'd be searching for independent verification.
Vr is very price prohibitive and Oculus/Facebook sell headsets at a loss to make their marketshare. Its not great but if you want to "try vr" especially something you hear will make you physically sick to use and you might not even like. Its just logical to spend the least amount of money on it for a "proper headset". Like if you value your privacy that is fine and completely understandable but lets be honest here, most people don't. Especially with the popularization of social media and smart phones like we can even apply the same logic with your argument with phones like why would you buy a device that has so many cameras and microphones and wave it around your home and toilet. Hell I think the phone is actually worse since most people bring them everywhere while a headset is a bit more constrained on where you can take it.
But they make their new products with 10% of recycled plastics and a cardboard box! SO ECO-FRIENDLY!
By killing the product completely they're forcing their users to upgrade. It's always profits man, that's always the reason
It's called "planned obsolescence".
Not even planned obsolescence... It's just "hey, you guys aren't buying our slightly better new version. We were talking today about how to make a little bit more money, and we decided, hey, we don't want to maintain this anymore. We also don't want to unlock it and let someone else take over, and while we're at it let's just start shutting off features until you buy a new one. Because fuck you"
I know. I was saying that is so unreasonable that they shouldn't be allowed to do it.
That said. I hope people are not so stupid to trust Meta with an upgrade after something like that.
Better to have invested in a Valve Index I feel than get an Oculus. Might be more expensive, but I trust Valve to not completely fuck over their consumers.
Minor exception is Australia.
Valve hates Australia (valve lost in court over refunds here).
So we don't get access to their hardware directly. It's lame.
I don't get why you're being downvoted, sounds like a localization/price/law thing, like Brazil and the price of consoles and games over there.
It's lemmy.
I'm used to it. If you post something that's not with the hive mind, you get down voted, regardless of you are correct.
I mean not really. Again the index is a great headset but look at how long people actually use their headsets for. Is it better to throw your money into a pit that is $400 or $1000. VR is a weird since you either love it or hate it. Most people are going to hate it and many people aren't really into the idea of reselling their stuff. This isn't to say facebook good or some nonsense like that but from a prospective customer's standpoint why spend so much money on something you might not even like. You don't have to drill any holes in your walls to put up base stations while inside out tracking isn't great it gets the job done and again its far more convenient. I like the option to have base stations but again realistically putting in so much work for something you might only spend a week or month on is not a great investment of your money or time. If you like VR, I would highly suggest getting a better headset than a quest or oculus headset but a newcomer I will 100% suggest a quest over anything else especially a used model to save them extra cash.
Because we own nothing now.