Ringleader of global monkey torture network, 'The Torture King', is charged
bbc.com
A ringleader in a global monkey torture network exposed by the BBC has been charged by US federal prosecutors.
Michael Macartney, 50, who went by the alias "Torture King", was charged in Virginia with conspiracy to create and distribute animal-crushing videos.
Mr Macartney was one of three key distributors identified by the BBC Eye team during a year-long investigation into sadistic monkey torture groups.
Two women have also been charged in the UK following the investigation.
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Mr Macartney, a former motorcycle gang member who previously spent time in prison, ran several chat groups for monkey torture enthusiasts from around the world on the encrypted messaging app Telegram.
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Animals are generally killed significantly younger than their natural lifespans. The short lives they live are entirely in conditions that are comparable to history's worst concentration camps. You're literally living on the rotten flesh of traumatized children.
Have you ever stopped to wonder what they want?
well yeah but they taste bad if you let them get old
Taste is subjective, and it changes in response to what you eat. The vast majority of people are used to what are called hyper-palatable foods - foods that are scientifically formulated to be addictive. Every food that is not hyper-palatable tastes flavorless by comparison.
If you get used to eating real food - that is, real plants in their whole, generally intact forms - then hyper-palatable foods end up tasting disgustingly salty.
Point is, plants taste perfectly fine.
@MilitantVegan @unreasonabro
apparently people with tattoos do not taste perfectly fine
Point is, that’s your opinion.
You're missing the point. Why does your fleeting sensory pleasure justify the murder of innocent sentient beings? And why does it justify the healthcare burden, environmental harm, and pathogenic outbreaks that you impose on everyone?
Because it’s a freedom I have to eat what I want, regardless of how it makes you feel.
This is something that YOU need to deal with. Not me.
You must have never had okra before. Or dulse. One is disgustingly bitter, one is disgustingly salty. Not all plants taste perfectly fine.
Okra did not taste disgustingly bitter to me (genetics play a large role in taste perception). And I used to put a small amount of dulse into all my meals because it is salty, a little goes a long way, and it's one of very few natural sources of iodine.
Sounds like a skill issue. The better you get at cooking plants, the better they taste. That and finding the right ones for you.
Sounds like you just like to be better than all of us as some kind of ascended plant eating freak.. you go right ahead and enjoy your fucking plants with no feelings.. I'm sure plants enjoy living too, weirdo. Is life more fun for you when we both insult each other? Is life more fun when you are acting like you have all of the answers and we're all wrong? Is it fun to police people's eating habits on planet earth? You're such a fucking weirdo. There is no skill issue, I've been a chef since I was 14 in restaurants across the world.. sounds just like you hate everybody and you have to argue to feel better
Maybe there'd be less issues if you could argue with the substance of the arguments I make, and not project your own arrogance. Whole-food plant-based cuisine requires learning a lot of unique skills, and unlearning bad habits. If all you're used to is relying on the crutch of loading your meals full of sugar, salt, and fat, then you're naturally not going to have any knowledge or experience in how to make meals that taste good and increase people's lifespans.
Maybe instead of letting your ego get in the way, you can take this as an opportunity to learn how to expand your culinary skills so you can at least know how to prepare something that heals instead of harms. Here's a few books to get started:
General: https://nutritionfacts.org/book/how-not-to-die-cookbook/
Weight loss: https://nutritionfacts.org/book/how-not-to-diet-cookbook/
For people who have heart disease: https://www.dresselstyn.com/site/books/prevent-reverse-cookbook/about-the-cookbook/
And for diabetes management: https://www.masteringdiabetes.org/book/
I tried to fucking talk to you but you're still lumping me into the fucking group of people who own factory farms and run the government and over Slaughter animals... I told you I don't fucking eat your stupid fucking animals because I'm fucking poor... stop fucking insulting people you stupid little shit. Ever taken to consideration that people have fucking eating disorders? And you're stupid eating plan does not help with somebody who has a fucking eating disorder? No you don't because nothing but your stupid fucking message is important to you... other people aren't important to you, animals aren't important to you, plants aren't important to you, only you are important to you.. people like you are fucking assholes and I don't give a fuck what you're saying because you don't give a fuck what I'm saying so fuck off.
I disagree with you but that is an informative graph. I knew egg laying chickens were killed before they were a year old but 5 months is wild.
the vast majority of make dairy calves are brought to full weight before slaughter: 18-20 months
Everywhere I've looked says the same - cows can live 15-20 years and possibly even longer. That's significantly more life than 18-20 months.
cows can live 15 to 20 years if they have protection from predators, and weather, and disease, and access to enough nutritious food, clean water, and veterinary care.
their natural life span, being a domesticated animal, is usually about 18-20 months.
That's insane. There's nothing natural about being slaughtered against your will. Growing less profitable is not a natural cause of death. I don't know anything more disturbingly capitalist than to perceive intelligent living beings as commodities.
this assumes non-human animals have a will to live. this would require an understanding that they, themselves, might die. we have no proof of understanding personal mortality in non-human animals (though, if you have a study that shows otherwise, i would be very interested to see it). therefore, we have no reason to believe nonhuman animals have a will to live.
that's ableist
intelligent is a relative term. but i can certainly show you something more disturbingly capitalist: exploiting people for profit.
no, and it's also not the cause of death for any of the animals we eat or otherwise exploit.
that chart is all lies. none of those animals have a natural lifespan that long
Source?
none of them would live that long without human intervention. that's an artificial lifespan.