Alternatively, Mike Johnson could simply call a vote. Congress is useless
So we've established neither Mike Johnson nor Joe Biden are trying very hard to help Ukraine.
It’s not easy for the executive to fund things without congress. The March aid was from DoD cost savings. The Israel weapons were added to a pre-approved weapons sale. They have to find creative loopholes every time where the actual solution is for congress to do their jobs
Trying to get it pushed when your party says they’ll remove you is more than the bare minimum.
Would you prefer he did nothing and Ukraine doesn’t get aid at all?
I'd prefer if he'd allow the Senate-passed bill, in front of him for months now, to come to a simple up-or-down vote by the people's Representatives instead of obstructing it with his Speaker powers.
But it seems he'd rather waste more time trying to write a different one, than allow any voting on the existing one.
He's not trying very hard. That's the point. If he were trying hard he would be going on a punditry tour saying that Republicans are not playing ball on Ukraine and they had better start and why and that he is staking his position on it. That would be trying hard.
And no, I am glad he is doing the bare minimum. I just wish he would do more than the bare minimum.
I think he’s trying very hard. He has taken a position on it and spoke out against other republicans. Weird he’s done what you want him to do and you are still upset.
It’s part of why mtg is trying to remove him.
With your attitude, he should fall back to party lines and block the funding. If he can’t get support from the democrats then he needs to fall back in line.
He hasn't done what I want him to do. He's made some milquetoast attempts.
Look, Mike Johnson is an innocent hard working man who saw a large group of morally corrupt assholes who won't do anything unless it makes the life of a woman, child or minority worse in some way and said "Hey, I'd like to be the head asshole of this group." I think he deserves some respect.
/s
And it's not like he always could just lie about things, or want even more once he got them...
He's playing both sides. He will never do anything that will result in Ukraine getting aid. He works for the Putin party.
He’s playing both sides.
So is Biden. So is every pro-corporate trash politician in this country.
Agreed. Neoliberals are conservatives.
It comes after Johnson has delayed for months on advancing aid that would provide desperately needed ammunition and weaponry for Kyiv, trying to find the right time to advance a package that will be a painful political lift.
Yes he has to protect his job as well. It’s why we call it politics. Had he just pushed it forward, it would have failed.
I’m not so sure some of the more centrist republicans wouldn’t have voted for the aid in the same way they did on the stopgap funding bill that got McCarthy booted. Its not my job to worry about Johnson remaining speaker and I won’t give him credit for accepting house rules that leave him hamstrung by the space laser caucus.
Mtg needs to go. She’s a waste of space in my opinion. I’ll let time decide how I feel towards Johnson but I see him trying to get things done.
I don’t get the impression he is trying very hard
We can use this argument? I don't get the impression Biden is trying very hard on all sorts of things.
For example, Biden went around congress to get weapons to Israel. So why isn't he doing that for Ukraine?
The administration has gone around congress
Ok. Keep doing it.
Alternatively, Mike Johnson could simply call a vote. Congress is useless
So we've established neither Mike Johnson nor Joe Biden are trying very hard to help Ukraine.
It’s not easy for the executive to fund things without congress. The March aid was from DoD cost savings. The Israel weapons were added to a pre-approved weapons sale. They have to find creative loopholes every time where the actual solution is for congress to do their jobs
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/house-speaker-mike-johnson-negotiating-white-house-advance-109152573
He’s trying hard enough democrats said they’d support him to stay speaker if he gets it passed.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4585578-aguilar-johnson-speaker-ukraine/amp/
So he's doing the bare minimum?
Trying to get it pushed when your party says they’ll remove you is more than the bare minimum.
Would you prefer he did nothing and Ukraine doesn’t get aid at all?
I'd prefer if he'd allow the Senate-passed bill, in front of him for months now, to come to a simple up-or-down vote by the people's Representatives instead of obstructing it with his Speaker powers.
But it seems he'd rather waste more time trying to write a different one, than allow any voting on the existing one.
He's not trying very hard. That's the point. If he were trying hard he would be going on a punditry tour saying that Republicans are not playing ball on Ukraine and they had better start and why and that he is staking his position on it. That would be trying hard.
And no, I am glad he is doing the bare minimum. I just wish he would do more than the bare minimum.
I think he’s trying very hard. He has taken a position on it and spoke out against other republicans. Weird he’s done what you want him to do and you are still upset.
It’s part of why mtg is trying to remove him.
With your attitude, he should fall back to party lines and block the funding. If he can’t get support from the democrats then he needs to fall back in line.
He hasn't done what I want him to do. He's made some milquetoast attempts.
Look, Mike Johnson is an innocent hard working man who saw a large group of morally corrupt assholes who won't do anything unless it makes the life of a woman, child or minority worse in some way and said "Hey, I'd like to be the head asshole of this group." I think he deserves some respect.
/s
And it's not like he always could just lie about things, or want even more once he got them...
He's playing both sides. He will never do anything that will result in Ukraine getting aid. He works for the Putin party.
So is Biden. So is every pro-corporate trash politician in this country.
Agreed. Neoliberals are conservatives.
Yes he has to protect his job as well. It’s why we call it politics. Had he just pushed it forward, it would have failed.
I’m not so sure some of the more centrist republicans wouldn’t have voted for the aid in the same way they did on the stopgap funding bill that got McCarthy booted. Its not my job to worry about Johnson remaining speaker and I won’t give him credit for accepting house rules that leave him hamstrung by the space laser caucus.
Mtg needs to go. She’s a waste of space in my opinion. I’ll let time decide how I feel towards Johnson but I see him trying to get things done.
Boebert is another I’ll be glad to see leave.