I have not dared to test my games with proton on Linux, but if they all work, Windows will be nothing but a VM for me that I use for the exceptions when something doesn't run under wine. Sheesh.
Check protondb.com if you want some idea before switching
Honestly the site is kind of useless, every time I look at it games that work perfectly out of the box with no changes will practically say that they don't work at all and vice versa games that don't work at all will say they run without issue.
Not to mention the amount of people putting literally fucking hundreds of completely worthless flags that actually do literally nothing whatsoever in the code swearing left right and Center that it does something. I kind of wish that site would just disappear
That is....not my experience. I've had a lot of issues that tips/flags helped clear up
Usually it's one flag that actually does something, surrounded by about 8 to 9 flags that do absolutely nothing. "flag soup" as developers like to call it. People add all of them at once and so they assume all of them are doing something when in reality only one of them did anything at all
I definitely believe that. you're using filters to cater to your setup, right? Typically if I set those filters I look for the simplest tips and try those. At least half the time it works first try (these are only cases where the game needed tinkering to get working properly)
Have you tried those flags tho?
No need, you can just look at the source code and see that that flag is not defined anywhere. It's not going to do anything it's not even being parsed it's just getting ignored. The creator of dxvk complains about this all the time. People piling on completely useless or redundant flags and spreading them everywhere.
I dunno man, can't know unless you try the flags. Might work. It worked for that guy.
Would be a nice feature if the UI could surface those useless flags somehow, assuming that's possible
Oh, they will likely work. Proton has come quite a long way
I haven't tried linux for like 8 years now and my oly problem was that the games i played back then weren't supported by linux. I kinda want them to force me to dip into linux again. Last week or so i had to solve a fucking riddle to start my computer to not accidentally accept anything. I hate it so much.
I switched to EndeavourOS (no dual boot to fall back on needed since I received a "work laptop" with Windows 11) about a year ago, first time using Linux period, let alone as a daily driver, and all I can say is that it has been a wonderful experience. I will never use Windows on a personal machine again.
Full disclosure: I have a brother who has been using Linux for a while that helped me through the install process, and basically showed me how to search Google (and the Arch wiki) if I run into any issues, and I have yet to run into anything serious enough to require his attention (which I'm sure he's thankful for). Small things here or there that I've been able to fix myself have gone a long way to helping me grasp (at least a little bit) what's going on under the hood.
Additionally, while I don't have a background in comp sci, I grew up during a time where we needed to know how computers worked beyond "press the button on the screen for the thing to start", so I was already pretty comfortable with the command line and all that.
So I had a little help, but I'm not exaggerating when I say that I haven't needed his direct help since installation.
As far as games are concerned, most of my PC gaming these days is on my Steam Deck, and even on there I've gotten games that Steam labels "unsupported" to work. For example, Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition with DSFix works great despite being "unsupported" on Steam.
As others have said, check out protondb.
And that wasn't enough to force you to try Linux again? Does Billy Gates have to sodomize your dog, or where is the line? lol
I made the switch on my daily driver laptop about 4 months ago. I mainly play games like Factorio, Dwarf Fortress and Rimworld, and they all work fine. Only trouble Ive had is with older games like Red Alert. Check out ProtonDB
I decided to play Commandos (1998) and it worked as perfectly fine as it would on Windows. It required a fan patch to support higher resolution and 16:9, but that patch worked fine too. The only large issues I've experienced so far are with multiplayer. For example, The Finals hadn't updated their version of Easy Anti-cheat to a version that supported Linux so it didn't work for a while, but it does now. That might actually be the only game that was an issue for me, and now it isn't.
IME, there's very little that won't run. I don't have a single game in my Steam library that doesn't run just fine. The most I've had to do to run anything was to try different versions of Proton, and that's as easy as choosing from a dropdown menu.
And what if we have a ton of games outside of steam?
My next pc will probably have linux, and my current windows as vm. I will get them to work hehe
Non-steam games can be added to Steam and run from there. There are also other launchers such as Lutris and Heroic that can help you install, manage, and run games from other marketplaces or other non-standard sources.
Figured as much, as proton seems to be focused purely on handheld devices needing launchers etc. But thats ok, means they are (hopefully) upstreaming back to wine
Proton is not specifically focused on handhelds. It's definitely an all-platforms thing.
You'll still be using proton in Lutris or Bottles most likely, at least for games. Proton is just a compatibility layer. Proton is absolutely not focused on handhelds. It's just performance improvements for Wine for Windows games.
You may be thinking of SteamOS.
A combination of Lutris, Bottles, and Proton GE has covered me so far. I find Lutris more gaming focused, and I have used Bottles a lot for little windows programs that aren't really games (as an example, some stuff I have for making TTRPG maps and tokens and stuff that I could probably find alternatives to, but they work fine in Bottles so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ).
You can check all your games on ProtonDB. That being said, almost any single player game will work. Same with any multiplayer game that doesn't insist on poorly implemented anti-cheat
I have not dared to test my games with proton on Linux, but if they all work, Windows will be nothing but a VM for me that I use for the exceptions when something doesn't run under wine. Sheesh.
Check protondb.com if you want some idea before switching
Honestly the site is kind of useless, every time I look at it games that work perfectly out of the box with no changes will practically say that they don't work at all and vice versa games that don't work at all will say they run without issue.
Not to mention the amount of people putting literally fucking hundreds of completely worthless flags that actually do literally nothing whatsoever in the code swearing left right and Center that it does something. I kind of wish that site would just disappear
That is....not my experience. I've had a lot of issues that tips/flags helped clear up
Usually it's one flag that actually does something, surrounded by about 8 to 9 flags that do absolutely nothing. "flag soup" as developers like to call it. People add all of them at once and so they assume all of them are doing something when in reality only one of them did anything at all
I definitely believe that. you're using filters to cater to your setup, right? Typically if I set those filters I look for the simplest tips and try those. At least half the time it works first try (these are only cases where the game needed tinkering to get working properly)
Have you tried those flags tho?
No need, you can just look at the source code and see that that flag is not defined anywhere. It's not going to do anything it's not even being parsed it's just getting ignored. The creator of dxvk complains about this all the time. People piling on completely useless or redundant flags and spreading them everywhere.
I dunno man, can't know unless you try the flags. Might work. It worked for that guy.
Would be a nice feature if the UI could surface those useless flags somehow, assuming that's possible
Oh, they will likely work. Proton has come quite a long way
I haven't tried linux for like 8 years now and my oly problem was that the games i played back then weren't supported by linux. I kinda want them to force me to dip into linux again. Last week or so i had to solve a fucking riddle to start my computer to not accidentally accept anything. I hate it so much.
I switched to EndeavourOS (no dual boot to fall back on needed since I received a "work laptop" with Windows 11) about a year ago, first time using Linux period, let alone as a daily driver, and all I can say is that it has been a wonderful experience. I will never use Windows on a personal machine again.
Full disclosure: I have a brother who has been using Linux for a while that helped me through the install process, and basically showed me how to search Google (and the Arch wiki) if I run into any issues, and I have yet to run into anything serious enough to require his attention (which I'm sure he's thankful for). Small things here or there that I've been able to fix myself have gone a long way to helping me grasp (at least a little bit) what's going on under the hood.
Additionally, while I don't have a background in comp sci, I grew up during a time where we needed to know how computers worked beyond "press the button on the screen for the thing to start", so I was already pretty comfortable with the command line and all that.
So I had a little help, but I'm not exaggerating when I say that I haven't needed his direct help since installation.
As far as games are concerned, most of my PC gaming these days is on my Steam Deck, and even on there I've gotten games that Steam labels "unsupported" to work. For example, Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition with DSFix works great despite being "unsupported" on Steam.
As others have said, check out protondb.
And that wasn't enough to force you to try Linux again? Does Billy Gates have to sodomize your dog, or where is the line? lol
I made the switch on my daily driver laptop about 4 months ago. I mainly play games like Factorio, Dwarf Fortress and Rimworld, and they all work fine. Only trouble Ive had is with older games like Red Alert. Check out ProtonDB
I decided to play Commandos (1998) and it worked as perfectly fine as it would on Windows. It required a fan patch to support higher resolution and 16:9, but that patch worked fine too. The only large issues I've experienced so far are with multiplayer. For example, The Finals hadn't updated their version of Easy Anti-cheat to a version that supported Linux so it didn't work for a while, but it does now. That might actually be the only game that was an issue for me, and now it isn't.
IME, there's very little that won't run. I don't have a single game in my Steam library that doesn't run just fine. The most I've had to do to run anything was to try different versions of Proton, and that's as easy as choosing from a dropdown menu.
And what if we have a ton of games outside of steam?
My next pc will probably have linux, and my current windows as vm. I will get them to work hehe
Non-steam games can be added to Steam and run from there. There are also other launchers such as Lutris and Heroic that can help you install, manage, and run games from other marketplaces or other non-standard sources.
Figured as much, as proton seems to be focused purely on handheld devices needing launchers etc. But thats ok, means they are (hopefully) upstreaming back to wine
Proton is not specifically focused on handhelds. It's definitely an all-platforms thing.
You'll still be using proton in Lutris or Bottles most likely, at least for games. Proton is just a compatibility layer. Proton is absolutely not focused on handhelds. It's just performance improvements for Wine for Windows games.
You may be thinking of SteamOS.
A combination of Lutris, Bottles, and Proton GE has covered me so far. I find Lutris more gaming focused, and I have used Bottles a lot for little windows programs that aren't really games (as an example, some stuff I have for making TTRPG maps and tokens and stuff that I could probably find alternatives to, but they work fine in Bottles so
¯\_(ツ)_/¯).You can check all your games on ProtonDB. That being said, almost any single player game will work. Same with any multiplayer game that doesn't insist on poorly implemented anti-cheat