Young Democrats face Gaza blowback as they try to mobilize students for Biden

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Sending Israel weapons doesn't look like a descalation strategy.

There were agreements already in place, and not sending at least some of those weapons was not an option.

That's just pure bullshit. Under the Leahy amendment they're not even allowed to send weapons to countries credibly accused of human rights abuses, and the state department's just sitting on those reports instead of following the law.

You could literally impeach the President over this, but obviously the majority of Congress is ok with the president breaking that law.

They’re right. The weapons agreement was already in place and paid for by Israel prior to any criminal accusations by the ICC. The subsequent aid was unnecessary, but it was the only leverage to get the Republicans in Congress to pass Ukraine aid.

You could literally impeach the President over this

You're telling me that the Republicans who have been grasping at straws for four years to come up with an excuse to impeach Biden are letting this impeachable offense pass them by? Sorry, but I don't believe you.

Republicans are overwhelmingly Zionists who would never criticize a Democrat for supporting Israel. If anything, they would impeach Biden for not sending Israel enough bombs and guns to use to murder innocent Gazans

Gee, sounds like we should really do everything we can do keep these Republicans out of office then.

Sure. Which leaves us with democrats. Who are the ones currently arming and funding a genocide

So you don't want Biden, but you don't want Trump either, but you can't have it both ways. No matter if you turn out to vote or not, you are getting one of those two choices. That's a fact. We're stuck in the Prisoner's Dilemma Election, and it's time to decide if we're going to play the game to win or not.

There's far more at stake this year than just the fate of Gaza, but shortsightedness is going to kill us.

Holy shit, genocide minimizing.

Scratch a liberal...

How is this minimizing genocide? I've acknowledged that it's a serious problem.

What's your solution?

Saying that there's far more at stake than an ongoing genocide minimizes genocide.

My solution is to protest as loudly as possible and donate my time, money, and energy to stopping genocide, and not waste anyone's time by trying to inhumanly minimize genocide.

More than one thing can be true at the same time. Stopping the genocide in Gaza is important. Stopping the rise of fascism in America is important. Stopping the erosion of civil liberties in America is important. Minimizing genocide would be me saying "It's not that bad", which I don't believe is true. It is that bad. I just disagree with the apparent strategy that the nascent leftists have embraced, which is to cut off the nose to spite the face, a strategy that will ultimately end up with a continuation of the status quo at best and risks a rapid acceleration of all of the problems I mentioned above in the worst case scenario.

By all means, protest and donate your money and time to the effort. That seems to be making an impact to some degree.

None of that is going to stop by voting for Biden, lol. We are seeing a rise in fascism, an erosion of civil liberties, and genocide, under Biden. Yes, Trump would probably be worse on some of these aspects, or even all, but we are already well beyond what should be unacceptable.

Protesting and donating is doing far more for gazans than sucking up to Biden and minimizing his atrocities ever will, and I say that as someone that will likely still vote for him.

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Over 30,000 is not enough for Joe “I am a Zionist” Biden?

Bush Sr and Reagan did more to hold Israel accountable for its crimes.

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