Yes everyone who disagrees with you is a lover of genocide
If you live in the US or a close ally, you are complicit in the genocide of Palestinians.
If your strategy is to get people to vote for genocide joe by checks notes being condescending towards people who feel that genocide is a red line... you are just screaming into the wind mad that your politics are a dead end that nobody believes in anymore.
Genocide Joe needs to earn my vote and stop directly supporting a genocide while simultaneously spitting in the face of those raising their voices in alarm.
You want my vote? Easy pick up the phone and tell Netanyahu it's over.
Yep will get so much better under..checks notes
..Trump
I'm not being condescending to anyone who doesn't know what they're doing
I find it especially hilarious that you pretend this is about Palestinians like you give a fuck and you can't even resist a trump style toddler insult GeNocIdE jOe
I find it especially hilarious that you pretend this is about Palestinians like you give a fuck and you can’t even resist a trump style toddler insult GeNocIdE jOe
I’m sorry wait what, do you question my motives for caring about a genocide?
If you want to been seen as someone who gives a fuck about Palestinians, you should probably not spread contempt for the only way to reduce harm against them. Instead you are fueling a new era of misery for them -- while using a style of insult only used by Trump in recent years.
It's just kinda funny you think people won't notice... any of this. But sure, use your pathetic crutch, the only one you have: "if you disagree, you love genocide".
Instead you are fueling a new era of misery for them
Sorry I dont know if I made this clear I am actually not the president of the US, it is Biden currently, thus it is him facilating a fueling a genocide. If Biden wants my vote he can wield his power to stop the genocide, and not at some indefinite time in the future, NOW .
You have made it clear you want trump to win, and anyone with a braincell knows that would be horrible news for Palestinians, those people you totally care about
You have made it clear you want trump to win, and anyone with a braincell knows that would be horrible news for Palestinians, those people you totally care about
If Biden wants my vote he can wield his power to stop the genocide, and not at some indefinite time in the future, NOW.
And if he doesn't, then trump it is! You seem really upset about that certainty. So upset you used a trump style nickname: gEnOcIdE JoE
So upset you used a trump style nickname: gEnOcIdE JoE
I used it because Biden is directly aiding and abetting a genocide.
You used it because you're pro trump. At best, by accident, but most likely intentionally
This is obviously a narrative you cannot let go of, but I am not pro trump in the slightest, I am a leftist.
Trying to rhetorically fuse the concepts of having a redline over directly supporting and supplying arms for a genocide and being pro Trump is unfortunately the only defense centrist democrats seem to have against the rest of us pointing out the candidate no one actually likes is again, directly fueling a genocide by supplying US made weapons, training to use those weapons, and complete diplomatic immunity for the political consequences of the heinousness of Israel’s atrocities (in not only slaughtering Palestinians indiscriminately, but artificially inducing the conditions of famine, bombing hospitals and assassinating journalists) from the international community.
Let me emphasize I can be swayed on my refusal to vote for Biden very easily. I want to vote for Biden, but if he wants my vote than he has to make that phone call with Netanyahu and stop the mass slaughter of innocent Palestinians and the genocidal erasure of their history from the landscape.
If Genocide Joe makes the phone call and stops this genocide I will immediately stop calling Biden names and commit to voting for him.
Don’t be mad at me for having standards? Be mad at the DNC and Biden for shoving such a shitty choice down voter’s throats.
i am not pro trump in the slightest, I am a leftist.
This is such a toxic, dehumanizing concept... To say citizens who live in countries with corrupt governments are complicit in the actions of the very government that oppresses them is straight up evil.
Like, dude, we can't even fucking get sick over here without risking financial ruin. And you want to say we ALL are responsible for the actions of our government - even while many of us actively protest those same actions?
Get the fuck out of here with this nonsense. You are stripping away the humanity and agency of everyone in an entire country when you assert such things. This is simply evil - it's something that, ironically, corrupt governments love to do.
Like, dude, we can’t even fucking get sick over here without risking financial ruin. And you want to say we ALL are responsible for the actions of our government - even while many of us actively protest those same actions?
Yes, that does not mean I place the primary blame on citizens nor does it mean I don't appreciate the power of protest (hopefully it will be enough to force Biden to change course, for the US's sake and for Palestinians). Still, it is the US government using US citizen's tax dollars to facilitate this genocide. That makes all US citizens complicit.
it is the US government using US citizen’s tax dollars to facilitate this genocide. That makes all US citizens complicit.
The hell it does. I don't get a say in where my tax dollars I'm legally required to pay go. If someone steals your money, uses it to buy a gun, and murders someone with it, are you complicit?
The hell it does. I donât get a say in where my tax dollars Iâm legally required to pay go. If someone steals your money, uses it to buy a gun, and murders someone with it, are you complicit?
Obviously directly shooting someone is the most complicit someone can be, but plenty of people leave firearms out in plain view with compatible ammo also in plain view nearby. If you leave your firearm out in plain view next to ammunition where a child could easily find it yes if someone steals that gun or picks it up and fiddles with it and ends up shooting someone, you are complicit to a significant degree for posessing such a dangerous tool and not properly safeguarding it.
The same thing goes with the U.S. military industrial complex.
You didn't answer my question at all. The hypothetical gun isn't mine.
I guess that is really the heart of where our disagreement lies, I consider our massively over funded military industrial complex to be far closer to a gun than innocent-but-simply-unguarded cash in this metaphor.
The question is whether or not a person is complicit in murder/genocide when it's committed with funds involuntarily extracted from said person.
Yes everyone who disagrees with you is a lover of genocide
If you live in the US or a close ally, you are complicit in the genocide of Palestinians.
If your strategy is to get people to vote for genocide joe by checks notes being condescending towards people who feel that genocide is a red line... you are just screaming into the wind mad that your politics are a dead end that nobody believes in anymore.
Genocide Joe needs to earn my vote and stop directly supporting a genocide while simultaneously spitting in the face of those raising their voices in alarm.
You want my vote? Easy pick up the phone and tell Netanyahu it's over.
Yep will get so much better under..checks notes ..Trump
I'm not being condescending to anyone who doesn't know what they're doing
I find it especially hilarious that you pretend this is about Palestinians like you give a fuck and you can't even resist a trump style toddler insult GeNocIdE jOe
I’m sorry wait what, do you question my motives for caring about a genocide?
If you want to been seen as someone who gives a fuck about Palestinians, you should probably not spread contempt for the only way to reduce harm against them. Instead you are fueling a new era of misery for them -- while using a style of insult only used by Trump in recent years.
It's just kinda funny you think people won't notice... any of this. But sure, use your pathetic crutch, the only one you have: "if you disagree, you love genocide".
Sorry I dont know if I made this clear I am actually not the president of the US, it is Biden currently, thus it is him facilating a fueling a genocide. If Biden wants my vote he can wield his power to stop the genocide, and not at some indefinite time in the future, NOW .
You have made it clear you want trump to win, and anyone with a braincell knows that would be horrible news for Palestinians, those people you totally care about
If Biden wants my vote he can wield his power to stop the genocide, and not at some indefinite time in the future, NOW.
And if he doesn't, then trump it is! You seem really upset about that certainty. So upset you used a trump style nickname: gEnOcIdE JoE
I used it because Biden is directly aiding and abetting a genocide.
You used it because you're pro trump. At best, by accident, but most likely intentionally
This is obviously a narrative you cannot let go of, but I am not pro trump in the slightest, I am a leftist.
Trying to rhetorically fuse the concepts of having a redline over directly supporting and supplying arms for a genocide and being pro Trump is unfortunately the only defense centrist democrats seem to have against the rest of us pointing out the candidate no one actually likes is again, directly fueling a genocide by supplying US made weapons, training to use those weapons, and complete diplomatic immunity for the political consequences of the heinousness of Israel’s atrocities (in not only slaughtering Palestinians indiscriminately, but artificially inducing the conditions of famine, bombing hospitals and assassinating journalists) from the international community.
Let me emphasize I can be swayed on my refusal to vote for Biden very easily. I want to vote for Biden, but if he wants my vote than he has to make that phone call with Netanyahu and stop the mass slaughter of innocent Palestinians and the genocidal erasure of their history from the landscape.
If Genocide Joe makes the phone call and stops this genocide I will immediately stop calling Biden names and commit to voting for him.
Don’t be mad at me for having standards? Be mad at the DNC and Biden for shoving such a shitty choice down voter’s throats.
Then stop taking action which can only help trump
This is such a toxic, dehumanizing concept... To say citizens who live in countries with corrupt governments are complicit in the actions of the very government that oppresses them is straight up evil.
Like, dude, we can't even fucking get sick over here without risking financial ruin. And you want to say we ALL are responsible for the actions of our government - even while many of us actively protest those same actions?
Get the fuck out of here with this nonsense. You are stripping away the humanity and agency of everyone in an entire country when you assert such things. This is simply evil - it's something that, ironically, corrupt governments love to do.
Yes, that does not mean I place the primary blame on citizens nor does it mean I don't appreciate the power of protest (hopefully it will be enough to force Biden to change course, for the US's sake and for Palestinians). Still, it is the US government using US citizen's tax dollars to facilitate this genocide. That makes all US citizens complicit.
The hell it does. I don't get a say in where my tax dollars I'm legally required to pay go. If someone steals your money, uses it to buy a gun, and murders someone with it, are you complicit?
Obviously directly shooting someone is the most complicit someone can be, but plenty of people leave firearms out in plain view with compatible ammo also in plain view nearby. If you leave your firearm out in plain view next to ammunition where a child could easily find it yes if someone steals that gun or picks it up and fiddles with it and ends up shooting someone, you are complicit to a significant degree for posessing such a dangerous tool and not properly safeguarding it.
The same thing goes with the U.S. military industrial complex.
You didn't answer my question at all. The hypothetical gun isn't mine.
I guess that is really the heart of where our disagreement lies, I consider our massively over funded military industrial complex to be far closer to a gun than innocent-but-simply-unguarded cash in this metaphor.
The question is whether or not a person is complicit in murder/genocide when it's committed with funds involuntarily extracted from said person.