Funny, those guys don't usually agree on that much

FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 424 points –

Do any of them know what the word "liberal" actually means?

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A liberal believes capitalism is broken and needs to be fixed.

A socialist believes capitalism is working as intended and needs to be destroyed.

What's someone who believes capitalism is broken and needs to be destroyed?

Anarchist, maybe?

Nah anarchists also fall within the "capitalism is working as intended and must be destroyed" camp. They just have different ways of doing it.

Someone who doesn't have conspiracy-brain. The people that say capitalism is working as intended seem to live by the inverse razor of "never attribute to collective stupidity of the implementors what can be attributed to deliberate malice by illuminati-like mechanisms."

"Deliberate malice," "rational self-interest [of the owner class]" — tom-ay-to, tom-ah-to.

But capitalism doesn't explain itself in terms of "the owning class" screwing everything up out of self-interest. Capitalism will talk about positively channeling people's self-interest. The intent is to construct a system that benefits people the most.

It's objectively not working as intended unless you think there's like... a hidden conspiracy behind capitalism where the elites carefully inculcated an economic theory over generations in order to normalize a system that would end up solidifying their status for hundreds of years to come.

It's not working as intended, and it won't work as intended, therefore we shouldn't try to fix it.