Uhh nvidia has had native Linux drivers since the 1990's...
But it sounds like they've been shit?
They're definitely not perfect but in my one year experience on Linux+2080ti, it's totally usable. The Linux community seems to enjoy those overblown drama, at this point the Nvidia thing is basically a meme, pretty funny to watch.
Meanwhile my experience with my 1080 Ti was so awful I found it preferable to downgrade to an RX 480 for a couple of years.
You shouldn't dismiss other people's experiences just because yours has been different.
I believe that your experience has been alright, but Nvidia has definitely had big issues with Linux. It's not drama, it's valid criticism of a company openly hostile to FOSS.
The first sentence says it's "definitely not perfect" and "in MY experience". So relax, nobody is dismissing your bad experience.
I'm relaxed. I just disagree with your take that Nvidia drivers causing issues in Linux just being a meme and accusing people of made up drama.
The Nvidia driver experience hasn't been "not perfect", it's been far from perfect.
I'm really sorry I hurt your feelings. I know Nvidia is close to your heart 😥
You ok? Still thinking about this? Lol, I actually think Nvdia sucks big time! I get my GPUs for free that's why I use Nvidia. I wouldn't give them money, unlike you. Stop crying and get an AMD maybe?
I do have an AMD GPU. Because I wanted one that actually works properly lol.
There you go! Now look at you, all grown up and ready to not care too much about unimportant stuff. Good luck now! Enjoy your computer and remember, you can be nice to people you disagree with, it's really possible.
Maybe take your own advice.
And again, sorry I insulted the GPU company you care so much about.
Cute
I'm sure Jensen appreciates all the simping you do on his behalf.
(Btw that's sarcasm, in case it flew over your head. He doesn't know you exist.)
Lol I have no clue who he is but you sure seem to know a lot of about NVIDIA. I get my gpus for free lol. I got a 3080 in a box waiting for me but I dont botter installing since the 2080ti WORKS PERFECTLY FINE on linux!!!!! Unlike you, I never gave them my personnal money, I have better things to do with it lol. I think linux and computer might be too complicated for you, maybe get an iPad? Or keep on being an AMD sucker, they must love losers like you who thinks a stupid capitalist business is better than another stupid capitalist business and get mad over it. LOL
It's not that bad. The drivers are just as buggy as the Windows versions honestly. It's just that the Radeon drivers are so stable that it makes Nvidia look bad by comparison. And, notably, Nvidia is REALLY slow to add new features like what they need to fully support Wayland.
The drivers are just as buggy as the Windows versions honestly.
Didn't they say that the core driver code was the same anyway ? (which would make sense)
By some definition. They have always been usable to some degree because I think animators or something use Linux commercially on Nvidia, and for gpgpu they are still top class on linux (nothing comes close)
They haven't always been the best for gaming or desktop (Wayland) use though, since Intel and AMD opened up their drivers.
Arguably in my experience Nvidia has been far less buggy for the last 30+ years on x11, and with this change they may have finally reached parity on Wayland, haven't tried it myself.
Unlike AMD and Intel, they don't get along with the open source community well and generally do whatever they please, which is why they earned the ire of many linux developers. For example, they're really dragging their asses with implementing explicit sync.
By dragging their asses you mean adding it it their very first beta driver just a few weeks after it was merged into Wayland/Xwayland?
Also after doing a gigantic amount of the work to get it into wayland/xwayland too
Ah sorry, I got it backward. Nvidia is dragging their asses on implementing "implicit" sync, so Wayland devs and nvidia ended up with a compromise and implemented the explicit sync protocol. IMO it's just another example of Nvidia doing whatever they please and forcing everyone to do it their way or highway.
They've mostly worked as advertised. One problem they've had was switching from external to embedded GPUs on laptops. I think that's fixed now.
My desktops have all had nVidia cards for more than 20 years with no real issues. It's a meme really.
They used to be good, almost as good as the Windows drivers. Lately, though, they've been kinda trash and the AMD open driver is pretty alright now. (Performance isn't as good but other than that it's good.)
Uhh nvidia has had native Linux drivers since the 1990's...
But it sounds like they've been shit?
They're definitely not perfect but in my one year experience on Linux+2080ti, it's totally usable. The Linux community seems to enjoy those overblown drama, at this point the Nvidia thing is basically a meme, pretty funny to watch.
Meanwhile my experience with my 1080 Ti was so awful I found it preferable to downgrade to an RX 480 for a couple of years.
You shouldn't dismiss other people's experiences just because yours has been different.
I believe that your experience has been alright, but Nvidia has definitely had big issues with Linux. It's not drama, it's valid criticism of a company openly hostile to FOSS.
The first sentence says it's "definitely not perfect" and "in MY experience". So relax, nobody is dismissing your bad experience.
I'm relaxed. I just disagree with your take that Nvidia drivers causing issues in Linux just being a meme and accusing people of made up drama.
The Nvidia driver experience hasn't been "not perfect", it's been far from perfect.
I'm really sorry I hurt your feelings. I know Nvidia is close to your heart 😥
You ok? Still thinking about this? Lol, I actually think Nvdia sucks big time! I get my GPUs for free that's why I use Nvidia. I wouldn't give them money, unlike you. Stop crying and get an AMD maybe?
I do have an AMD GPU. Because I wanted one that actually works properly lol.
There you go! Now look at you, all grown up and ready to not care too much about unimportant stuff. Good luck now! Enjoy your computer and remember, you can be nice to people you disagree with, it's really possible.
Maybe take your own advice.
And again, sorry I insulted the GPU company you care so much about.
Cute
I'm sure Jensen appreciates all the simping you do on his behalf.
(Btw that's sarcasm, in case it flew over your head. He doesn't know you exist.)
Lol I have no clue who he is but you sure seem to know a lot of about NVIDIA. I get my gpus for free lol. I got a 3080 in a box waiting for me but I dont botter installing since the 2080ti WORKS PERFECTLY FINE on linux!!!!! Unlike you, I never gave them my personnal money, I have better things to do with it lol. I think linux and computer might be too complicated for you, maybe get an iPad? Or keep on being an AMD sucker, they must love losers like you who thinks a stupid capitalist business is better than another stupid capitalist business and get mad over it. LOL
It's not that bad. The drivers are just as buggy as the Windows versions honestly. It's just that the Radeon drivers are so stable that it makes Nvidia look bad by comparison. And, notably, Nvidia is REALLY slow to add new features like what they need to fully support Wayland.
Didn't they say that the core driver code was the same anyway ? (which would make sense)
By some definition. They have always been usable to some degree because I think animators or something use Linux commercially on Nvidia, and for gpgpu they are still top class on linux (nothing comes close)
They haven't always been the best for gaming or desktop (Wayland) use though, since Intel and AMD opened up their drivers.
Arguably in my experience Nvidia has been far less buggy for the last 30+ years on x11, and with this change they may have finally reached parity on Wayland, haven't tried it myself.
Unlike AMD and Intel, they don't get along with the open source community well and generally do whatever they please, which is why they earned the ire of many linux developers. For example, they're really dragging their asses with implementing explicit sync.
By dragging their asses you mean adding it it their very first beta driver just a few weeks after it was merged into Wayland/Xwayland?
Also after doing a gigantic amount of the work to get it into wayland/xwayland too
Ah sorry, I got it backward. Nvidia is dragging their asses on implementing "implicit" sync, so Wayland devs and nvidia ended up with a compromise and implemented the explicit sync protocol. IMO it's just another example of Nvidia doing whatever they please and forcing everyone to do it their way or highway.
They've mostly worked as advertised. One problem they've had was switching from external to embedded GPUs on laptops. I think that's fixed now.
My desktops have all had nVidia cards for more than 20 years with no real issues. It's a meme really.
They used to be good, almost as good as the Windows drivers. Lately, though, they've been kinda trash and the AMD open driver is pretty alright now. (Performance isn't as good but other than that it's good.)