Trump supporters try to doxx jurors and post violent threats after his conviction

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“We need to identify each juror. Then make them miserable. Maybe even suicidal,” wrote another user on the same forum. “1,000,000 men (armed) need to go to washington and hang everyone. That’s the only solution,” wrote another user. “This s--- is out of control.”

“I hope every juror is doxxed and they pay for what they have done,” another user wrote on Trump’s Truth Social platform Thursday. “May God strike them dead. We will on November 5th and they will pay!”

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Get their IP addresses. Jail them. Easy. You prevent terrorist attacks. But I guess that's too much to ask from police.

Some of those those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.

I'm so fucking tired of seeing this quote constantly... but it's inarguably a pervasive problem. I need this to stop being true so I don't have to see it all the time.

There will just be another quote from RATM to take its place. Been listening to them a lot lately - there are so damn many relevant quotes in their music...

You'll never get away! mwuhuhuhuh

I feel the same way about "every accusation is a confession." It's such over simplified, sixth grade mean girl bullshit. Buuuuuuut it hasn't been wrong lately, which is annoying lol.

It's because so many conservatives stopped socially and mentally developing in 6th grade.

I get it man, I really wish this quote/lyric wasn't applicable to literally every day too.

Grizzled police-chief: get me those IP addresses

Nerd: setting up the back-trace now, wait, the ip is 127.0.0.1

Grizzled police-chief: don't give me that geek-talk poindexter, speak english

[Zoom in]

Nerd: the post was coming from inside the station.

[No one is shocked]

fin.

127.0.0.1 is localhost (i.e. your own computer) so either the nerd is incompetent or he just outed himself for the crime

I assume they all share the same Tandy 1000 to IRC with hot-singles in their area.

Not specifically. But this assumes the chief is too dumb to know "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" or understand that it's the only IP address that means "it's not somebody else, it's someone here!".

There really are people that dumb in Law Enforcement.

Here is the problem: These people very carefully choose their words. It’s not illegal to “wish” all the jurors are outed, tortured, maimed, and drawn and quartered over a bed of coals- along with their families, neighbors and first grade teachers.

See that’s all okay to say apparently. This is our legal system. It’s not until they actually say, “I’m going to […],” that LE gets involved. Because none of that other stuff was a direct threat, or intended to incite violence, or intended to instill fear. They were just harmless wishes. Super okay, and nothing to worry about, you see?

Here is the problem: These people very carefully choose their words.

This has not been my experience with Trump supporters on the internet. Ever.

This is exactly what they’ve done. Notice everything (except for “make them miserable”, which isn’t inherently illegal..) is placed on “someone else should…”:

1,000,000 men (armed) need to […]

I hope every juror is doxxed and they pay […]

May God strike them dead.

They know exactly what they are doing. Doing it mafia style, just like dear leader.

Edit: Idiots downvoting what’s right in their face. Can’t believe facts, only emotions. Just like the idiots following Trump. Idiots are idiots. Here is more evidence for you, on this exact topic from reuters:

While the posts identified by Reuters all called for violence or insurrection, most fell short of the legal standard for a prosecutable threat, which typically requires evidence that the comment reflects a clear intent to act or instill fear, rather than simply suggesting a frightening outcome.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-call-riots-violent-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/

Yep, that’s how it tends to work.

Until you start calling for people to directly start attacking people, then you are allowed freedom of speech.

Yes and no.

There are no "magic words" that make a threat legal. It's always a question of context.

For example if Don Corleone came to your business and said "Nice place you got here, would be a shame if it burned down. By the way I happen to sell fire protection", that would absolutely be illegal even though he never said he would do anything wrong. The intent is clear to all.

So it doesn't really matter if someone says "I wish that guy was dead!" vs "I'm going to kill that guy!" Either one can be an illegal true threat, or not, depending on the context.

Well, would that be the same as someone coming on here saying "Nice federated place you got here, would be a shame if it went down. By the way, I happen to sell DDoS protection"?

It could be the same, for example if you are talking to Whiterose. It's always a question of context.

Didn't they arrest some little 4chan Nazi for saying he wanted to kill a cop in Minecraft? Turned out the trick didn't work for him.

We really need better enforcement of laws on threatening civil servants.

These jurors did a job that I might even struggle to take due to the likelihood of these assholes might fuck my life up. Imo, they should be given at least a year of Secret Service or US Marshall protection.

I personally don't trust the local PD to protect them.

Conservatives make up over 90% of police in the U.S. Conservatism should be a diaqualifier for positions of authority. It is unsafe to give such dangerous people power over others.