Do people even need a car for a 3 miles trip? You can cover that on a bike in 15-20 mins at a chill pace...
Also, 28% of trips are less than a mile? People can't walk a mile?
Not speaking for other places, but America is not made for bikes or pedestrians. It is actively hostile to them in the best cases, and filled with explicit murderous intent in others.
Drivers will actually, actively, try to hit you for daring to take to the roads. And you have to take the road because we have sparse or missing pedestrian sidewalks.
I wouldn't wish biking 3 miles in most American cities on anyone used to a properly designed nation.
Sadly, you are speaking for a great many places. I've cycled in most of the countries I've visited and it can be relatively dangerous.
If people want to see how to integrate a public transport network with a cycle path network, places like Netherlands and Denmark are leading the way.
Over here in the UK we have one of the most regressive attitudes to sustainable transport in Europe. Our trains don't work and cycling is barely tolerated.
This is just anecdotal, but as someone who both drives and cycles in the UK, I'd say it's city dependent. I live in Leeds, go to uni in Leeds and work in Huddersfield. I cycle to uni, cycle to the train station and drive to work (when I can't get a train for whatever reason). Leeds is getting there, albeit slowly but it's getting alot better for cyclists. I like the electric bicycle scheme so I can cycle to the station and just leave the bike there. although it shouldn't be more expensive than getting a bus.
Not everyone is child free and lives where it doesn’t rain
The Dutch do it... Rain or shine (mostly rain with crazy wind) with their cargo/kid bikes.
I am Dutch
So just lazy then?
I live on the Dutch coast and still cycle despite constantly shit weather.
I have 4 kids. Stop acting like a rodent.
Sounds like you're stressed from all those kids! Have you tried cycling? It's a great outlet and stress relief
Not stressed at all, I have a home gym.
Thanks for your concern!
Weight training is very nice for muscle growth and all, but have you tried cycling as a healthy cardio alternative?
If almost a third of trips are less than a mile I feel like the cars are being overused... I am not dismissing the legitimate reasons like rain or carrying kids, although umbrellas and covered strollers have been invented, but I doubt that contributes much to that statistic. If I were to guess, many of these short trips are to the closest mcdonald's drive-through, but regardless.
If gas prices weren't so low(because the US spread freedom to every oil rich country to ensure that), I am pretty sure these statistics would look a lot different. I am sure the urban planning and missing sidewalks don't help, but if fuel was more expensive there would be a lot more people walking, therefore creating incentive for a change.
This is you right, calling on car companies to produce even more vehicles?
Gas prices are largely controlled by OPEC, which the USA isn’t even part of.
Thank you for all your colorful annotations.
Pulling things out of context I see... That thread was about supply and demand being unbalanced leading to scalping.
It doesn't matter if it's cars, GPUs, PS5s or . It's how economy works.
Why didn’t you tell everyone to just ride bikes
Because for the half of people that take longer trips some might consider bikes unsuitable.
And for the half that does take short trips I doubt they would care or even consider it, just like you.
But I guess that's enough offtopic for this thread.
So if you want to take the car out for a 2km trip go for it, as for me 8'll just walk it, I don't mind a bit of rain or snow as I specifically chose a city that is walkable so I got all I need in 30 mins walking distance or bus ride. I don't even need a car inside the city unless grabbing something heavier from the supply store, but even for that I can go see the item in the store and they will deliver it. Definetly not a daily thing tho
Do people even need a car for a 3 miles trip? You can cover that on a bike in 15-20 mins at a chill pace... Also, 28% of trips are less than a mile? People can't walk a mile?
Not speaking for other places, but America is not made for bikes or pedestrians. It is actively hostile to them in the best cases, and filled with explicit murderous intent in others.
Drivers will actually, actively, try to hit you for daring to take to the roads. And you have to take the road because we have sparse or missing pedestrian sidewalks.
I wouldn't wish biking 3 miles in most American cities on anyone used to a properly designed nation.
Sadly, you are speaking for a great many places. I've cycled in most of the countries I've visited and it can be relatively dangerous.
If people want to see how to integrate a public transport network with a cycle path network, places like Netherlands and Denmark are leading the way.
Over here in the UK we have one of the most regressive attitudes to sustainable transport in Europe. Our trains don't work and cycling is barely tolerated.
This is just anecdotal, but as someone who both drives and cycles in the UK, I'd say it's city dependent. I live in Leeds, go to uni in Leeds and work in Huddersfield. I cycle to uni, cycle to the train station and drive to work (when I can't get a train for whatever reason). Leeds is getting there, albeit slowly but it's getting alot better for cyclists. I like the electric bicycle scheme so I can cycle to the station and just leave the bike there. although it shouldn't be more expensive than getting a bus.
Not everyone is child free and lives where it doesn’t rain
The Dutch do it... Rain or shine (mostly rain with crazy wind) with their cargo/kid bikes.
I am Dutch
So just lazy then?
I live on the Dutch coast and still cycle despite constantly shit weather.
I have 4 kids. Stop acting like a rodent.
Sounds like you're stressed from all those kids! Have you tried cycling? It's a great outlet and stress relief
Not stressed at all, I have a home gym.
Thanks for your concern!
Weight training is very nice for muscle growth and all, but have you tried cycling as a healthy cardio alternative?
If almost a third of trips are less than a mile I feel like the cars are being overused... I am not dismissing the legitimate reasons like rain or carrying kids, although umbrellas and covered strollers have been invented, but I doubt that contributes much to that statistic. If I were to guess, many of these short trips are to the closest mcdonald's drive-through, but regardless.
If gas prices weren't so low(because the US spread freedom to every oil rich country to ensure that), I am pretty sure these statistics would look a lot different. I am sure the urban planning and missing sidewalks don't help, but if fuel was more expensive there would be a lot more people walking, therefore creating incentive for a change.
This is you right, calling on car companies to produce even more vehicles?
https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/5400276
Gas prices are largely controlled by OPEC, which the USA isn’t even part of.
Thank you for all your colorful annotations.
Pulling things out of context I see... That thread was about supply and demand being unbalanced leading to scalping. It doesn't matter if it's cars, GPUs, PS5s or . It's how economy works.
Why didn’t you tell everyone to just ride bikes
Because for the half of people that take longer trips some might consider bikes unsuitable. And for the half that does take short trips I doubt they would care or even consider it, just like you. But I guess that's enough offtopic for this thread. So if you want to take the car out for a 2km trip go for it, as for me 8'll just walk it, I don't mind a bit of rain or snow as I specifically chose a city that is walkable so I got all I need in 30 mins walking distance or bus ride. I don't even need a car inside the city unless grabbing something heavier from the supply store, but even for that I can go see the item in the store and they will deliver it. Definetly not a daily thing tho
Holland is also flat as fuck
Would be good for hauling large objects
I doubt the average person needs to do that daily over such a short distance.