Chasers are dangerous to the trans community and turn people into fetish objects, rather than recognizing them as people. It ignores the desires of trans individuals who wish to be seen as the gender they identify with and explicitly chases trans individuals for their being trans.
Ie, a transwoman is pursued for being a transwoman and not for being a woman.
Hey that was me back when I had a kbin account. I'm the account in the screenshot.
That was a direct response to someone asking if I would have sex with a trans man. I got accused of being a chaser for saying "sure, I guess, pre-transition" (the first part) and being a transphobe for saying "but I'm not sexually attracted to dicks" (the second part). Note those two accusations are more or less mutually exclusive, but it doesn't matter because they're both deeply, incredibly stupid accusations. The mods and admins of blahaj pointed out how incredibly stupid the accusations were, and some people didn't like being called stupid, so they went back to hexbear. And continued to be stupid.
To be clear, being a chaser is transphobic.
How is it not transphile?
Because chasers undermine the expressed gender identity of trans individuals for the sake of their own sexual pleasure. Calling it "transphilic" is just semantical wordplay that dismisses the inherently predatory nature of chasers.
I don't get it.
How is it undermining that and not affirming? I mean to fetishise a group is wrong, I get that and that is also my opinion but if they want to fuck a transwoman they want that because she is a woman which affirms the womanhood?
And the point is how is it transhate if you like the trans aspect specifically. Doesn't make sense to me.
It is not a wordplay it is what those words mean. Phobic means something like hate or fear and phile means something like love or attraction.
The poor thing thinks words mean whatever they decide they mean. They're not capable of explaining their position in an intelligent way, either.
No, chasers are people that specifically fetishize transwomen or transmen for being trans.
Hmm okay. But the I still don't understand how it is transphobic.
Do you see why fetishizing black people for their skin coloris racist? Its similar to that.
I can see that. But that wouldn't be "negrophobic" either. Not everything negativ in the context of a group is phobia.
You don't understand how undermining someone's gender identity by focusing on them being trans over them being their expressed gender is transphobic?
No.
Edit: as phobic means you want to get away from something or don't want it to exist. Fetishising is the exact opposite.
If someone is arachnophobic that doesn't mean he wants to fuck a spider or undermine the identity of the spider. That someone wants the spider be gone because it is a spider.
Fetishizing is also phobic.
This whole exchange could be more productive if you could explain your opinions.
The fuck is a chaser?
Here's a good reddit thread over on r/asktransgender.
Chasers are dangerous to the trans community and turn people into fetish objects, rather than recognizing them as people. It ignores the desires of trans individuals who wish to be seen as the gender they identify with and explicitly chases trans individuals for their being trans.
Ie, a transwoman is pursued for being a transwoman and not for being a woman.
Hey that was me back when I had a kbin account. I'm the account in the screenshot.
That was a direct response to someone asking if I would have sex with a trans man. I got accused of being a chaser for saying "sure, I guess, pre-transition" (the first part) and being a transphobe for saying "but I'm not sexually attracted to dicks" (the second part). Note those two accusations are more or less mutually exclusive, but it doesn't matter because they're both deeply, incredibly stupid accusations. The mods and admins of blahaj pointed out how incredibly stupid the accusations were, and some people didn't like being called stupid, so they went back to hexbear. And continued to be stupid.
To be clear, being a chaser is transphobic.
How is it not transphile?
Because chasers undermine the expressed gender identity of trans individuals for the sake of their own sexual pleasure. Calling it "transphilic" is just semantical wordplay that dismisses the inherently predatory nature of chasers.
I don't get it.
How is it undermining that and not affirming? I mean to fetishise a group is wrong, I get that and that is also my opinion but if they want to fuck a transwoman they want that because she is a woman which affirms the womanhood?
And the point is how is it transhate if you like the trans aspect specifically. Doesn't make sense to me.
It is not a wordplay it is what those words mean. Phobic means something like hate or fear and phile means something like love or attraction.
The poor thing thinks words mean whatever they decide they mean. They're not capable of explaining their position in an intelligent way, either.
No, chasers are people that specifically fetishize transwomen or transmen for being trans.
Hmm okay. But the I still don't understand how it is transphobic.
Do you see why fetishizing black people for their skin coloris racist? Its similar to that.
I can see that. But that wouldn't be "negrophobic" either. Not everything negativ in the context of a group is phobia.
You don't understand how undermining someone's gender identity by focusing on them being trans over them being their expressed gender is transphobic?
No.
Edit: as phobic means you want to get away from something or don't want it to exist. Fetishising is the exact opposite.
If someone is arachnophobic that doesn't mean he wants to fuck a spider or undermine the identity of the spider. That someone wants the spider be gone because it is a spider.
Fetishizing is also phobic.
This whole exchange could be more productive if you could explain your opinions.
You're really gonna have to start writing more than one sentence per comment if you want anyone here to know what the fuck you're on about
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phobia
It doesn't sound like they're afraid to me?
Someone upvoted this idiotic take, and whoever it was, I'm disappointed in you.
Sure, depending on how you define chaser, but it's not applicable here.
It sounds like the polar opposite to me.
A chaser is someone who fetishizes and objectifies trans people.