Undecided voters say they now support Joe Biden after debate
A group of undecided Latino voters said they would vote for President Joe Biden after watching his Thursday night debate with former President Donald Trump.
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A clip posted on X shows the group being interviewed by a journalist. One man said he would vote for Biden because "Trump sounded like a crazy liar," according to Matt A. Barreto, professor of Political Science and Chicana/o & Central American Studies at UCLA.
The man being interviewed said Trump "said the same thing time after time" and was not answering questions or "saying how he would fix things," according to a Newsweek translation.
He went on to admit that "Biden was indeed a bit slow in talking," saying the president "has a stutter" but believes Biden explained "what he has done and what he is still doing while president.
"After being undecided for a little while, I think today, I switched to Biden," he added.
Really? He shuffled on and was so incoherent I was shocked. I turned it off after ten minutes as it was embarrassing to watch. They need someone better.
Absolutely absurd.
He's been doing a great job for 4 years, standing next to dumps, who can't string two sentences together, and being asked palatable questions that basically mean nothing, I think he did pretty well for an 81-year-old.
Also, biden's a great president, they don't need anyone better.
He's 81, not 88.
Cool, thanks.
I'm not commenting on the four years, I'm not American, but on what I saw. It was not a pretty sight. "pretty well..." isn't a great measure, is it? Not many are saying he came out looking well
Are you going off the two five-second clips that are being repeated everywhere or the entire debate?
For an event that means so little substantively, "pretty well" is a good metric.
If you walk through a manure mister and look pretty well at the end of it, you're good.
Also, he has regular public performances before and after that event, if you watch any of those, he's fine.
4 years of effective administration is more significant testament to biden's ability to lead than standing on stage next to an idiot for 90 minutes.
I watched the first ten minutes of the 'debate' and had had enough.
I don't know how many watched the ones prior and subsequent to this, but... 68m people (if I remember rightly) watched this.
The past four years don't mean much for the forthcoming election at the end of the year when the concerns of people are not being addressed, by someone who struggles to walk and speak coherently.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0jXKYxpaiUE5fSPyiHKnQN?si=42896b8bbce34857
There are plenty of people worried about this, and calls for him to step down are significant. If he's like this now, what's he going to be like in his mid-80s? This does not look good.
You can say: the past four years! as much as you like, it won't matter if Biden loses, which is a more realistic prospect than it was last week.
Many people who didn't watch the debate, don't regularly watch his public appearances and read internet comments feel the same way you do.
Calls for biden to step down are not significant in the real world, they are baseless epithets repeated on the internet by anonymous strangers or established conservatives.
The concerns of people are being addressed, any claims to the contrary are not based in fact.
"what's he going to be like in his mid-80s"
Not as important to holding the office of the President as people are misapprehending. Biden's not a car salesman, he is administering a country, and he's good at it. He can wear polka dot bow ties for all I care. FDR was in a wheelchair and often couldn't speak at all.
Anyone who believes there's any reason to replace Biden as the presidential candidate at this point is either allowing themself to be fooled by internet trolls or is a troll themselves.
What do you think now? The writing was on the wall three weeks ago.
That I was right, democrats all got taken in by conservative bullying and threw away their best chance at winning the presidency with the incumbent president who already beat trrmp and gained allies and voters through progressive legislation.
...which conservatives? They were political commentators, Democrats and their funders. Biden is/was not going to win.
He certainly won't now.
I asked which conservatives (had a meaningful impact on Biden stepping down).
Your statement was not sensible in the first place, and is evermore silly now.
The Democratic Party put pressure on him to stand down because he was not going to win; only his pollster said he had a chance, no others did.
He was never going to.
They were.
You're having trouble understanding simple statements.
Don't put that on me.
You can be confused about what you're saying, but it doesn't mean that you're incorrect assumptions are correct.
Biden easily could have won.
His supporters were afraid he wouldn't, listened to tired conservative propaganda from four years ago, and circled around the baseless, cynical take that a candidate who already beat Trump and has gained lots of allies during his first term because of his progressive legislation couldn't win twice.
It's a foolish sentiment, but it's much easier to tear someone down than stand by your convictions.
That's what you're doing here.
I'll find someone to slow clap for you.
Feel free to point out which statements.
Again, which conservatives, and why did they have an influence?
The Democrats are applauding him for stepping down.
Sticking by what you're saying when it's clearly wrong is not standing by your convictions, is folly. It's digging a hole and putting your head it in so far that you ignore reality.
Your attempt at performative comments (to... no one but me) don't look smart.
They may not be "significant", but you have political commentators (see: The Rest is Politics, former British MPs, a commentator and Scaramucci) thinking it would be for the best.
You may not think it is important that Biden is struggling to string answers together, but I assure you that the public does, of which tens of millions will have come out of it thinking: shit, the Republican cries that Biden has lost it will ring true.
I think your last comment is misconstruing what a lot of people think; I do not have any opinions because of trolls, I have only posted a few times here and spoke to a couple of friends (and listened to The Rest is Politics) about it... it does not look good at all.
He is older than my grandparents than when they passed away, and is less coherent than my grandma was, by far. There is no reason he should be in this position, the Democrats need someone better who can articulate themselves (regardless of any stutter, that is not what I'm referring to) and respond to things they have practiced on in mock debates behind closed doors.
The more this goes on the worse this gets for Biden; September is going to be very worrying for the next debate.
"They may not be "significant", but you have political commentators thinking it would be for the best".
Yup. Insignificant performing pundits.
Still insignificant.
Trump stumbles over his words or says nonsense, was an absolute s***show of a president who constantly lied.
Biden stumbles over his words or says nonsense, has been a great president and has done what he said he was going to do.
The Democrats do not need anybody better, Biden is achieving all of his policy aims that are in line with progressives in the United States
If you want to see somebody tap dancing, go to Broadway.
As far as the administration of the country goes, Biden is doing a very good job developing and supporting civil rights, the environment, sustainable technology and the economy.
What part of any of my posts has suggested I need entertainment?
No one is saying Biden came off looking like he did well, many in politics have admitted it went badly:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gx7d0qwdo
I'd suggest not ignoring this, but then we are insignificant. Actual politicians are saying this is worrying.
I'm definitely going to ignore insignificance.
First ten minutes were the worst, after that Biden started to make at least some reasonable points.
People also seem to be completely brushing off him having a cold like it was just some campaign lie. To me that’s exactly what he looked like: completely out of it from being sick. I get like that when I’m ill and I’m not even half his age. Given his campaign events and state of the union have not been the same it seems pretty clear to me that it wasn’t simply him being old unless I’m missing something.
Fair. Initial impressions can be damning.
Did you see the other fucker up there? Did you hear him at all? Did we watch the same debate?
A little bit, he sounded less insane than usual; don't be surprised if he's voted in again, with this seen as one of the pivotal reasons why.