The lawsuit accusing Trump of raping a 13-year-old girl, explained

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The lawsuit accusing Trump of raping a 13-year-old girl, explained
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Johnson claimed that Trump violently raped her when she was 13 at a 1994 orgy hosted by Jeffrey Epstein — the billionaire who was convicted in 2008 of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution and has been accused of having sex with more than 30 underage girls.

Johnson said Trump had sexual contact with her at four of those parties, including tying her to a bed and violently raping her in a “savage sexual attack.” The lawsuit said Johnson “loudly pleaded” with Trump to stop, but that he responded by “violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.”

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Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe. When Trump denied the allegations and accused her of defrauding him, he got sued again for defamation.

Trump raped a 13 year old girl.

Aren't those different cases?

I'm not sure what case they mean but this particular Jane Doe doesn't seem to have won against Trump on rape allegations. First case was dismissed and second was dropped after there were death threats. Seems like there's four Jane Doe lawsuits against Trump, two about the rape, but two of them have nothing to do with that. Pretty confusing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_v._Trump

No. But Trump does have like 30 other allegations, so I could see why you were confused.

Sure, the guy who says his friend likes girls on the younger side and that they are okay with it deserves the benefit of the doubt. Excuse me while I throw up.

This particular case is, technically, an accusation, though. Even if we're all just about certain that it's true.

Sure, I heard he totally respects women's rights. He would be never think of purposely walking in on a young girl changing.... Ohh wait

Did you even read what I said? I agree with you there. But technically, and I'm only bringing this up because you the original commenter* originally did, it is an accusation.

*Edit: I thought you were the same person, but my point still stands.

Suuuure, I am just calling bullshit on it. You are okay, even if your playing devils advocate to a rapist.

Jesus fucking Christ with you people.

For real, it gets old giving an admitted and adjudicated rapist the benefit of the doubt. Here you are though exacerbated by the cruelty of calling a spade a spade.

Apparently we can't talk shit about a piece of shit because we may hurt your sensibility.

It's amazing how relentlessly someone can misjudge the intention of messages.

It is amazing how butthurt someone can get when they perceive their message was misunderstood. Herein lies the problem, I did not misunderstand rather just introduced sarcasm and ridicule to cope with how fucked the situation is.

Ridiculous situations are deserving of ridicule. When someone takes it personally it shows they have an invested interest. I am to believe they are on my side and just clarifying a technicality.

This guy has survived his entire life on legal technicalities using this as a tool to continue raping and looting all that is around him. We are to have a civil conversation about something that is so uncivil it literally breaks the normal social contracts that exist. Instead of focusing on this we are worried about feelings being hurt.

The circle jerk you guys are building up to is rather momentous.

This situation definitely deserves ridicule but I think you've managed to do more damage yourself than I could've.

See, here we are again worried about your feelings. I guess you did help prove a point though.

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Justified sarcasm, but not relevant to this particular thread about technical legal language.

The situation is so perverse but we are to hold a logical detached conversation about a child rapist. Excuse me while I go throw up again.

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Holy crap, I hope that's not what you think I was saying.

It is hard to tell when you are dealing with a serial rapist.

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Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe.

I'm not sure if there's some other Jane Doe lawsuit he lost but he didn't lose (either time) the rape accusation talked in the article. First was dismissed and second was dropped (likely because death threats).

A lawsuit filed in California in April 2016 accused Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of forcibly raping three 12 and 13-year-old girls at underage sex parties at Epstein's Manhattan residence in 1994.[39] The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by a Jane Doe claiming to have been raped by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13 years old.[40] It was withdrawn in October as the plaintiff said she had received death threats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations#Jane_Doe_(1994)

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